New CWGC Additions - WW2

Discussion in 'Non-Commemorated War Dead' started by chrisharley9, Nov 29, 2009.

  1. Bardess

    Bardess Leaping from WW1 ...

    Not forgotten

    [Erm, Chris, I'm a bit attached to the 'e' on the end thanks]
     
  2. chrisharley9

    chrisharley9 Senior Member

    Pte William KROTZKY
    13806113 Royal Pioneer Corps
    Died 25.02.45 Age 27
    Commemoration: Brookwood Memorial, Surrey, UK

    Added today to the CWGC Debt of Honour

    He was submitted by IFCP with the finding volunteer being Diane Shakespeare.

    Sorry about the spelling in the previous post Diane which I have duly edited.

    Chris
     
  3. chrisharley9

    chrisharley9 Senior Member

    CWGC added the following casualties to the WW2 Civilian War Dead Roll of Honour yesterday.

    Nursing Sister Jean Cross MORRISON
    Died 17.02.42
    Reporting Authority: S.S. Tanjong Penang

    The following were all ecclesiastical casualties who died during WW2 in Japanese hands on an unknown date in New Guinea or surrounding islands.

    Revd. John Christopher CONLEY
    Revd. William CULHANE
    Revd. John DINGLES
    Revd. Edward HARRIS
    Revd. Arthur MANION
    Revd. Bernard MOORE

    May They Rest In Peace
     
  4. chrisharley9

    chrisharley9 Senior Member

    Pte William KROTZKY
    13806113 Royal Pioneer Corps
    Died 25.02.45 Age 27
    Commemoration: Brookwood Memorial, Surrey, UK

    Added today to the CWGC Debt of Honour

    He was submitted by IFCP with the finding volunteer being Diane Shakespeare.

    Sorry about the spelling in the previous post Diane which I have duly edited.

    Chris



    Well Diane look who you have found

    Kurt Konig
    (KV 6/33)
    Because of the absence of reliable local support, SOE was unable to launch many operations into Germany during the War, but one successful agent was Kurt Konig.
    An anti-Nazi Sudeten German, Konig deserted from the German army in 1942 and came to Britain, where in the course of his interrogation he supplied much useful military information. The Security Service investigated his suitability after SOE decided to take him on to run missions into Germany, and this file deals with that investigation. He went on to undertake several missions, gathering information and, on one occasion, sabotaging the railway line between Cologne and Koblenz. He was finally captured in January 1944, and executed in February 1945.
    This reconstituted file deals with Security Service investigations into Konig. It emerges clearly from the file that the Service did not trust him and believed he should be interned, while SOE believed him and was instrumental in overcoming these objections and sending him on missions into Germany. A note by the Director of B in June 1943 indicates why SOE was able to win in this case - 'I am reluctant to take up this particular case with C as it may lead to recriminations between SIS and SOE for which we should be held responsible. There is already so much mistrust and ill-feeling between those two departments…' - the Service did not want to further encourage these recriminations. The file covers the period from 1942, when Konig arrived in Spain, to 1945 when his execution is reported. There are reports of Konig's activities for SOE, including from his interrogations (e.g. at folios 30b and 44a), and warnings of the dangers to SIS controls abroad should Konig be sent on a second mission. Konig's SOE personal file is a present closed but will be open later this year.

    His SOE cover name seems to be Krotzky

    HS 9/855[​IMG]Kurt KONIG aka Volkmar KROTZKY aka Karl KUBELKA aka Ernst MEYER - born June 1919. Volume 1

    & there are another 2 volumes as well
     
  5. chrisharley9

    chrisharley9 Senior Member

    L/Cpl David Sutherland CRAIGIE
    2875645 4th Bn, Gordon Highlanders
    Died 19.05.40 Age 25
    Commemoration: Dunkirk Memorial, France

    Added yesterday to the CWGC Debt of Honour

    Submitted by IFCP with the finding volunteer being Bernie Barton

    May He Rest In Peace
     
  6. Bardess

    Bardess Leaping from WW1 ...

    Well Diane look who you have found

    Kurt Konig
    (KV 6/33)
    Because of the absence of reliable local support, SOE was unable to launch many operations into Germany during the War, but one successful agent was Kurt Konig.
    An anti-Nazi Sudeten German, Konig deserted from the German army in 1942 and came to Britain, where in the course of his interrogation he supplied much useful military information. The Security Service investigated his suitability after SOE decided to take him on to run missions into Germany, and this file deals with that investigation. He went on to undertake several missions, gathering information and, on one occasion, sabotaging the railway line between Cologne and Koblenz. He was finally captured in January 1944, and executed in February 1945.
    This reconstituted file deals with Security Service investigations into Konig. It emerges clearly from the file that the Service did not trust him and believed he should be interned, while SOE believed him and was instrumental in overcoming these objections and sending him on missions into Germany. A note by the Director of B in June 1943 indicates why SOE was able to win in this case - 'I am reluctant to take up this particular case with C as it may lead to recriminations between SIS and SOE for which we should be held responsible. There is already so much mistrust and ill-feeling between those two departments…' - the Service did not want to further encourage these recriminations. The file covers the period from 1942, when Konig arrived in Spain, to 1945 when his execution is reported. There are reports of Konig's activities for SOE, including from his interrogations (e.g. at folios 30b and 44a), and warnings of the dangers to SIS controls abroad should Konig be sent on a second mission. Konig's SOE personal file is a present closed but will be open later this year.

    His SOE cover name seems to be Krotzky

    HS 9/855[​IMG]Kurt KONIG aka Volkmar KROTZKY aka Karl KUBELKA aka Ernst MEYER - born June 1919. Volume 1

    & there are another 2 volumes as well

    What a fabulous bit of detective work there Chris. I'm speechless! Fantastic find. Thanks
     
  7. chrisharley9

    chrisharley9 Senior Member

    Pte Cecil Charles MARTIN
    6347810 6th Bn, Queen’s Own Royal West Kent Regiment
    Died 24.04.43 Age 25
    Commemoration: Alamein Memorial, Egypt

    Added to the CWGC Debt of Honour yesterday

    Submitted by IFCP with Steve Morse being the finding volunteer

    May He Rest In Peace
     
  8. chrisharley9

    chrisharley9 Senior Member

    CWGC added the following casualties to its database today.

    Capt John MacDonald DAME
    Royal Air Force Ferry Command
    Died 22.02.43
    Buried: Nashville Spring Hill Cemetery, TN, USA

    Radio Operator Cecil Charles LANE
    Royal Air Force Ferry Command
    Died 22.02.43
    Buried: Nashville Spring Hill Cemetery, TN, USA

    May They Rest In Peace
     
  9. Jedburgh22

    Jedburgh22 Very Senior Member

    Re Chris Harley's post, I have a Michael Tapperell of SOE's Jockey Circuit with a date of death of 3rd March 1945
     
  10. chrisharley9

    chrisharley9 Senior Member

    Could you expand on that a bit; are you saying that he is non commemorated

    Chris
     
  11. chrisharley9

    chrisharley9 Senior Member

    right understood now; I had already submitted a Michael Taperell as a civilian death in German hands.

    Name:
    TAPERELL, MICHAEL
    Initials:
    M
    Nationality:
    United Kingdom
    Rank:
    Civilian
    Regiment/Service:
    Civilian War Dead
    Date of Death:
    between 03/09/1939 and 31/12/1947
    Additional information:
    Died at Hamburg.
    Casualty Type:
    Civilian War Dead
    Reporting Authority</SPAN>:
    GERMANY

    I do agree that he may be SOE as there is a file at the NA; however we may have to accept the fact that he was a member of the French Resistance in that he was a British civilian who got left behind in 1940

    Chris
     
  12. PsyWar.Org

    PsyWar.Org Archive monkey

    Well Diane look who you have found

    Kurt Konig
    (KV 6/33)
    Because of the absence of reliable local support, SOE was unable to launch many operations into Germany during the War, but one successful agent was Kurt Konig.
    An anti-Nazi Sudeten German, Konig deserted from the German army in 1942 and came to Britain, where in the course of his interrogation he supplied much useful military information. The Security Service investigated his suitability after SOE decided to take him on to run missions into Germany, and this file deals with that investigation. He went on to undertake several missions, gathering information and, on one occasion, sabotaging the railway line between Cologne and Koblenz. He was finally captured in January 1944, and executed in February 1945.
    This reconstituted file deals with Security Service investigations into Konig. It emerges clearly from the file that the Service did not trust him and believed he should be interned, while SOE believed him and was instrumental in overcoming these objections and sending him on missions into Germany. A note by the Director of B in June 1943 indicates why SOE was able to win in this case - 'I am reluctant to take up this particular case with C as it may lead to recriminations between SIS and SOE for which we should be held responsible. There is already so much mistrust and ill-feeling between those two departments…' - the Service did not want to further encourage these recriminations. The file covers the period from 1942, when Konig arrived in Spain, to 1945 when his execution is reported. There are reports of Konig's activities for SOE, including from his interrogations (e.g. at folios 30b and 44a), and warnings of the dangers to SIS controls abroad should Konig be sent on a second mission. Konig's SOE personal file is a present closed but will be open later this year.

    His SOE cover name seems to be Krotzky

    HS 9/855[​IMG]Kurt KONIG aka Volkmar KROTZKY aka Karl KUBELKA aka Ernst MEYER - born June 1919. Volume 1

    & there are another 2 volumes as well

    Some details from his SOE P/F:

    Kurt König, born Bremen, 6 Sep 1919.

    Enlisted in the 253 Coy, Pioneer Corps on 2 Nov 1942, under the alais Volkmar Krotzky, Czech, born Aussig, 17 Nov 1918.

    Executed 26 Feb 1945.

    He conducted three mission for SOE's German Section. A fairly vain and stubborn character by all accounts, and considered a little unbalanced.

    Lee
     
  13. chrisharley9

    chrisharley9 Senior Member

    Lee

    you wouldnt happen to have any of the pages from his SOE file as I would like to get SOE added as the secondary unit.

    Chris
     
  14. PsyWar.Org

    PsyWar.Org Archive monkey

    Lee

    you wouldnt happen to have any of the pages from his SOE file as I would like to get SOE added as the secondary unit.

    Chris


    Chris, I have a complete copy of all three SOE files on him. What do you need?
     
  15. chrisharley9

    chrisharley9 Senior Member

    Lee

    basically proof that he was indeed SOE; also the link between his names then we can have his true name on Brookwood instead of his alias

    Those 3 files must be heavy reading

    Chris
     
  16. PsyWar.Org

    PsyWar.Org Archive monkey

    Chris, PM me your email address and I'll send you the ideal page. It is labelled "SOE Battle Casualty" and gives his real name, date and place of birth with his fictitous name, date and place of birth.

    To be honest I've only ever scanned the three files quickly. I originally requested the opening of the P/F for research for my book "The Black Art". But as König's missions didn't have a psychological warfare aspect I didn't cover him.

    Lee
     
  17. chrisharley9

    chrisharley9 Senior Member

    PM sent

    Why is the file closed at the moment

    Chris
     
  18. PsyWar.Org

    PsyWar.Org Archive monkey

    Just emailed you the page Chris.

    The SOE files were opened around December 2002 and should still be available for public inspection.

    PM sent

    Why is the file closed at the moment

    Chris
     
  19. chrisharley9

    chrisharley9 Senior Member

    Lee

    A very public thank you for your help in this matter; will keep everyone posted with the outcome

    Chris
     
  20. chrisharley9

    chrisharley9 Senior Member

    In the interests of tidiness I will be closing this thread & replacing it with an announcement each time a new WW2 casualty is announced. Please PM me with any comments on any aspect of this thread.
     

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