Need Help Identifying Type Of WW2 Map

Discussion in 'WW2 Militaria' started by Victorian Place, Mar 7, 2019.

  1. I have an antique store and I run across some interesting things I can figure out, but this one is throwing me for a loop. It's a Map, including a possible war trophy, and a few pictures of german and american soliders. Has anyone seen a map like this or might be able to tell me what kind it is? Was thinking command map that shows advancements and graveyards as well as landing sites. But that's just a guess. Took a few photos of the front, back, and a few of the add ins. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
     

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  2. idler

    idler GeneralList

    It's a post-war Michelin road map so there's no value in it, I'm afraid.

    Now, if the Hohenstaufen cuff title is real - and I wouldn't want to venture an opinion on that because of the amount of repro and fake stuff out there - that could be worth a few bob:

    9th SS Panzer Division Hohenstaufen - Wikipedia
     
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  3. m kenny

    m kenny Senior Member

    Its a post-war map and I notice that south of Bayeux the D94 (heading east off the D6) road is shown and construction of that was not started until 1964. It also shows this road before it was extended even further east in 1994.
     
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  4. SDP

    SDP Incurable Cometoholic

    The map is often found in Souvenir shops and is a Michelin map that has been overprinted, fitted with a cover and entitled 'Battle of Normandy'. Cheap item when new and with cover removed and now cut down totally worthless.
     
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  5. Something about it looked fishy to me. The stained spots looked manufactured. Kinda like the old looking pirate maps. Guess I'll have to pull the cuff title off and photo the back and see if it's real.
     
  6. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    Just endorse the above - I live in France and I have a map with the same markings in my car that I bought at Arromanche about 10 years ago, and it is a tourist map which shows the dates the front line effectively moved [in general terms].
    The photos are interesting, any chance you can upload them as seperate images?

    TD
     
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  7. Harry Ree

    Harry Ree Very Senior Member

    It is a special 50th anniversary of the landings in Normandy and is a reprint from the No 102 Michelin 1947 map by Michelin.

    It was published as a Special 50th Anniversary Edition and was included in the sale of the 1994 Michelin Red Guide France....MIchelin declared not to be sold separately from the guide.

    Entitled Battle of Normandy June-August 1944.... additionally an interestingly illustration for it shows the runs of the Pluto fuel supply network and the various fuel infeeds into Manche and Calvados.

    The temporary military cemeteries situation is shown in 1947 gives an insight in the progress of establishing the permanent cemeteries as seen today.
     
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  8. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    See attached images from my map

    TD
     

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  9. Owen

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  10. Harry Ree

    Harry Ree Very Senior Member

    2019-03-08 001 001.jpg This is the 1947 Michelin Map No 102 reprinted for the 50th anniversary of the Battle of Normandy and issued free with the 1994 Michelin Red Guide France.

    TD's copy appears to be the same but declared to be free without reference to the 50th Anniversary of the 1944 Battle of Normandy.
     
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  11. SDP

    SDP Incurable Cometoholic

    Interesting in that there appears to be several issues of this map aimed at different markets. I'm quite sure I bought mine at the Arromanches Museum a number of years ago.
     
  12. Here's the pictures of the pictures and the back of the cuff title. Stitching doesn't match up with any real or fake ones I've seen so far.
     

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  13. Harry Ree

    Harry Ree Very Senior Member

    The quality of Michelin maps.

    Apparently the Germans invaded France using Michelin maps as the basis for their topography of France and the Allies did the same in 1944.

    In addition,Allied officers were issued with copies of the Michelin 1939 Red Guide. France.
     
  14. 8RB

    8RB Well-Known Member

    Here's the 1984 edition, on which it says it's a reprint of a 1947 original... so don't throw away your map just yet...

    1984 edition.jpg
     
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  15. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    Wonder if they had the food guide as well :rolleyes:

    TD
     
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  16. The only thing that bugs me, is the back of my map has nothing on it. Indicating to me it was never a fold up map. There's defiantly creases where it was folded, but there are not illustrations or lettering or numbering on the back indicating anything. It's just completely brown, almost vellum paper feeling.
     
  17. In slightly better news, my research on the Hohenstaufen cuff title shows it might be real. At least it passes the first check mark of the H line not being centrally located like it is on the repros.
     

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