Nazis in Argentina

Discussion in 'General' started by gerito, Feb 4, 2010.

  1. gerito

    gerito Discharged

    Hello to all.
    Already it is known that lot germans escaped to parts of the world at the end of the war...We know that some of them came here (Argentina and southamerica).My friend some time ago they said to me, about a man being employed at Bariloche city (south of Argentina) find buried a weapon. The weapon is a Luger gun...
    Bariloche have many of features German, school german, club, etc.
    My father tell me, when he goes to Bariloche 40 years ago, he enter in a Store, and find to an old man who said to have been a German official...
    With regard to the weapon (luger), I am verifying more info, i tracker this.

  2. Za Rodinu

    Za Rodinu Hot air manufacturer

    Good work, G. Keep them coming :)
  3. Smudger Jnr

    Smudger Jnr Our Man in Berlin

    Nice Alpine Photograph.

  4. Rob Dickers

    Rob Dickers 10th MEDIUM REGT RA

    Saw a very good programme on the History Channel last night about the ODESSA conection, very suprised about the involvement of the Catholic Church in Genoa Italy signing the Red Cross Passports for the fugitives.
  5. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

  6. Steve G

    Steve G Senior Member

    Mengele; Posner & Ware.
  7. Charley Fortnum

    Charley Fortnum Dreaming of Red Eagles

    Hidden trove of suspected Nazi artifacts found in Argentina
    BUENOS AIRES, Argentina — Jun 20, 2017, 12:21 AM ET

    In a hidden room in a house near Argentina's capital, police believe they have found the biggest collection of Nazi artifacts in the country's history, including a bust relief of Adolf Hitler, magnifying glasses inside elegant boxes with swastikas and even a macabre medical device used to measure head size.

    Some 75 objects were found in a collector's home in Beccar, a suburb north of Buenos Aires, and authorities say they suspect they are originals that belonged to high-ranking Nazis in Germany during World War II.

    "Our first investigations indicate that these are original pieces," Argentine Security Minister Patricia Bullrich told The Associated Press on Monday, saying that some pieces were accompanied by old photographs. "This is a way to commercialize them, showing that they were used by the horror, by the Fuhrer. There are photos of him with the objects."

    Among the disturbing items were toys that Bullrich said would have been used to indoctrinate children, a large statue of the Nazi Eagle above a swastika, a Nazi hourglass and a box of harmonicas.

    Police say one of the most-compelling pieces of evidence of the historical importance of the find is a photo negative of Hitler holding a magnifying glass similar to those found in the boxes.

    "We have turned to historians and they've told us it is the original magnifying glass" that Hitler was using, said Nestor Roncaglia, head of Argentina's federal police. "We are reaching out to international experts to deepen" the investigation.

    The photograph was not released to the public, but was shown to The Associated Press on the condition that it not be published.

    The investigation that culminated in the discovery of the collection began when authorities found artworks of illicit origin in a gallery in north Buenos Aires.

    Agents with the international police force Interpol began following the collector and with a judicial order raided the house on June 8. A large bookshelf caught their attention and behind it agents found a hidden passageway to a room filled with Nazi imagery.

    Authorities did not identify the collector who remains free but under investigation by a federal judge.

    "There are no precedents for a find like this. Pieces are stolen or are imitations. But this is original and we have to get to the bottom of it," said Roncaglia.

    Police are trying to determine how the artifacts entered Argentina.

    The main hypothesis among investigators and member of Argentina's Jewish community is that they were brought to Argentina by a high-ranking Nazi or Nazis after World War II, when the South American country became a refuge for fleeing war criminals, including some of the best known.

    As leading members of Hitler's Third Reich were put on trial for war crimes, Josef Mengele fled to Argentina and lived in Buenos Aires for a decade. He moved to Paraguay after Israeli Mossad agents captured Holocaust mastermind Adolf Eichmann, who was also living in Buenos Aires. Mengele later died in Brazil in 1979 while swimming in a beach in the town of Bertioga.

    While police in Argentina did not name any high-ranking Nazis to whom the objects might have originally belonged, Bullrich noted there were medical devices.

    "There are objects to measure heads that was the logic of the Aryan race," she said.

    Ariel Cohen Sabban, president of the DAIA, a political umbrella for Argentina's Jewish institutes, called the find "unheard of" in Argentina.

    "Finding 75 original pieces is historic and could offer irrefutable proof of the presence of top leaders who escaped from Nazi Germany," Cohen told the AP.


    Associated Press video journalist Paul Byrne contributed to this report.

    Short Video at Link.
    Hidden trove of suspected Nazi artifacts found in Argentina
  8. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    Two years on, presumably this is they:
    Haul of Nazi artefacts on display in Argentina mostly fake, expert says
  9. Harry Ree

    Harry Ree Very Senior Member

    Saw the article....rewardable business for some....a variation of the fake paintings market.

    Digressing..... Hugh Trevor Roper who "authenticated" Hitler's Dairies which cost the Sunday Times a packet 35 odd years ago.
  10. Robert-w

    Robert-w Well-Known Member

    I was a senior manager in a firm of management consultants at the time and News International were one of my clients. I was at a meeting in their HQ when the news that the diaries were definitively fake broke. Never met Murdoch but the man who actually authorised the payment was there and he looked somewhat green.

    In respect of Argentina - the country had been a popular place to emigrate to for Germans long before the Nazis came to power
  11. Harry Ree

    Harry Ree Very Senior Member

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