Naval Personnel Buried On Shore, But Listed On Naval Memorials

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  1. TijgerB

    TijgerB Member

    Maybe a little outside the subject but what about Samincheh? He was a Chinese from the Royal Navy Chinese Section. He had been a POW during the war. He is believed murdered around 26 February 1946 in Palembang while serving onboard an HMS. Two Sub LT is believed to have been murdered while searching for him. He is as far as I know not commemorated by CWGC.
     
  2. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery Patron



    Two casualties on that day
    HOULDER, ROBERT GEORGE Sub-Lieutenant 26/02/1946 29 Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve United Kingdom Panel 90, Column 3. PORTSMOUTH NAVAL MEMORIAL [​IMG]
    LAST, ROBERT HENRY Sub-Lieutenant 26/02/1946
     
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  3. TijgerB

    TijgerB Member

    I know they were murdered when they went out searching for him. Because of my research I probably have the best database on British/Indian casualties in Netherlands East Indies 45/46.

    To me the sad thing is that the man whom they went out searching for is not commemorated anywhere.
     
  4. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery Patron

    Could you possibly post the info you have to see if there is a chance of commemoration

    Regards
    Clive
     
  5. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    From - Memorial - ABCC - Argentine British Community Council

    HOULDER, Robert George Sub-Lieut. RNVR. H.M.S. Tana. Missing presumed killed 26th February 1946 (age 29). HMS Tana – shore base in Kilindini, Kenya. Son of George Addyman Houlder and Magdalen Frances Houlder, of Borough Green, Kent.

    Cannot find the other Sub Lt on the same page but I would assume it would have been the same country that he was killed in as R G Houlder.

    TD
     
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  6. TijgerB

    TijgerB Member

    Hello Clive,

    I will check later tonight. I have the WO203 concerning the incident. I can probably pm you a link to it later then you will have all the info I got myself.

    Regards
    TijgerB
     
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  7. chrisharley9

    chrisharley9 Senior Member

    I will have a look when I get home & see what can be done.
     
  8. TijgerB

    TijgerB Member

    Okay my brain may not be up to speed after a long day at work. The files are too big to upload so
    chrisharley9 and CL1 if you give me an e-mail adress I will be happy to forward the 5 pages to you.
     
  9. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery Patron

    Hello
    Chris is our expert and will attempt to follow this up if at all possible.
    Chris will advise you on the next steps

    Regards
    Clive
     
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  10. chrisharley9

    chrisharley9 Senior Member

    FITZGERALD, ROBERT REGINALD
    Rank:
    Able Seaman
    Service No:
    D/JX 267127
    Date of Death:
    04/04/1942
    Regiment/Service:
    Royal Navy
    H.M.S. President III
    Grave Reference:
    Anglican 1. Sec. 37. Grave 82.
    Cemetery:
    NEWCASTLE (SANDGATE) GENERAL CEMETERY

    N.B.

    Research has shown that Able Seaman Fitzgerald is buried at this location; arrangements are currently in hand for his grave to be marked.



    Commemoration Moved From Plymouth Naval Memorial
     
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  11. chrisharley9

    chrisharley9 Senior Member

    JOHNSON, FRANK MILLS
    Rank:
    Paymaster Commander
    Date of Death:
    01/12/1943
    Regiment/Service:
    Royal Navy
    H.M.S. Canada
    Panel Reference:
    Panel 94.
    Memorial:
    PORTSMOUTH NAVAL MEMORIAL
    Camp Hill Cemetery, Halifax, Nova Scotia.

    Canadian DC shows that he drowned at Halifax & also gives the burial place.
     
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  12. chrisharley9

    chrisharley9 Senior Member

    EDWARDS, FREDERICK ALBERT
    Rank:
    Stoker 2nd Class
    Service No:
    C/KX 157054
    Date of Death:
    03/03/1943
    Regiment/Service:
    Royal Navy
    H.M.S. Pembroke
    Grave Reference:
    Screen Wall. 146. D427.
    Cemetery:
    MANOR PARK CEMETERY

    N.B.

    Recent research has shown that this casualty is buried here. The Commission is in the process of adding his name to a screen wall to commemorate him as it is not possible to mark his actual grave.

    Commemoration Moved From Chatham Naval Memorial.
     
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  13. chrisharley9

    chrisharley9 Senior Member

    TARLING, RAYMOND JAMES
    Rank:
    Engine Room Mechanic 5th Class
    Service No:
    C/MX 623528
    Date of Death:
    21/10/1945
    Age:
    21
    Regiment/Service:
    Royal Navy
    H.M.S. Pembroke
    Grave Reference:
    Sec. C. Extn. Grave 334.
    Cemetery:
    KINGSBURY (ST. ANDREW) CHURCHYARD
    Commemoration Moved From UK BOR.
     
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  14. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery Patron

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  15. chrisharley9

    chrisharley9 Senior Member

    KERR, EDGAR BOWES
    Rank:
    Engine Room Artificer 1st Class
    Service No:
    P/M24738
    Date of Death:
    23/02/1945
    Regiment/Service:
    Royal Navy
    H.M.S. Excellent
    Panel Reference:
    Panel 94.
    Memorial:
    PORTSMOUTH NAVAL MEMORIAL
    Uphall Cemetery, West Lothian.
     
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  16. Shannon Craig

    Shannon Craig New Member


    My great great uncle
     

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    chrisharley9 Senior Member

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  18. Shannon Craig

    Shannon Craig New Member

    Thank you ! Amazing how thoughtful of you
     
  19. Shannon Craig

    Shannon Craig New Member

    What does c

    Where has he been moved to from Plymouth ? Or what does that mean ?
     
  20. chrisharley9

    chrisharley9 Senior Member

    originally his name was on the Plymouth Naval Memorial to the Missing as he had no known grave. Once I saw the file above I searched the area for a grave & find it. Findings were passed on to CWGC who agreed to move his commemoration to the cemetery in Australia.

    Chris
     
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