My Waffen SS Attic Find!

Discussion in 'WW2 Militaria' started by devincu, Jan 7, 2013.

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  1. devincu

    devincu Junior Member

    Okay guys I am new to the forum but I had to post what I found last week in an attic here in my home town. I am a heating tech and I was putting a furnace in for this guy when I looked over and saw a rotten box with what looked like a uniform hanging out of it. When I pulled it out this is what I found! He gave me the set and said his dad was in the 2nd Infantry Division during WWII and brought this home from the war. Enjoy!! B)
     

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  2. Ron Goldstein

    Ron Goldstein WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran Patron

    Enjoy ?

    Regrettably not this particular chappie, but I have no doubt at all that there are some forum members who will drool over your collection and offer you big bucks to relieve you of your treasures.

    Ron
     
  3. sigcollector

    sigcollector Member

    The uniform must not have been of the taste for the moths, ie hanging out...
     
  4. stolpi

    stolpi Well-Known Member

    Enjoy ?

    fully agreed :mellow:
     
  5. Bradlad

    Bradlad Senior Member

    There is no denying those items are of great historical interest, no matter how distasteful their wearer was they cannot be ignored however they should be in a museum rather than private hands, to be used as examples of the terrors of the past and not for possibly nefarious reasons some private buyers might want.
     
  6. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    This is the miliaria section.
    Please expect discussion/sharing of militaria.

    Though I'd personally have some doubts about the veracity/provenance of these items.
    No expert though.
     
  7. Mr Jinks

    Mr Jinks Bit of a Cad

    It is a militaria collection plain and simple ,the poster is making no comment other than documenting their finding. I for one appreciate him taking the time to post it here.Thanks. Disagree with the museum comment though too much is held out of sight in big storage areas and as they seem non too popular here so I can see them deemed as not PC correct and banished from sight for ever at least here you can see their photographs?

    Kyle
     
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  8. Jonathan Ball

    Jonathan Ball It's a way of life.

    Interesting to view so thank you for posting. Not an expert in uniforms by any stretch of the imagination but is the shirt on the right hand side of the collection German?

    I'd be interested to know about the guy who brought the stuff home from Europe. What do you know about him?
     
  9. Dave55

    Dave55 Atlanta, USA Patron

    It is a militaria collection plain and simple ,the poster is making no comment other than documenting their finding. I for one appreciate him taking the time to post it here.Thanks. Disagree with the museum comment though too much is held out of sight in big storage areas and as they seem non too popular here so I can see them deemed as not PC correct and banished from sight for ever at least here you can see their photographs?

    Kyle

    I agree, Kyle. Maybe the original poster is a more 'casual' history buff then some of us are and he found a uniform that is obviously WWII related and thought the forum members might be interested.

    I think the SS were cowardly bullies but it is still an interesting uniform.
     
  10. Swiper

    Swiper Resident Sospan

    I believe the uniform item on the far right is the M44 economy uniform issued to the Germans (either real or a repro), which was based off Battledress.

    Either way if genuine a great keepsake for that family, and as with all SS stuff its rather valuable if genuine.
     
  11. Bond

    Bond Senior Member

    This "find" has been posted on many forums recently and has been thought to be original to the period by those who know about such items. Certainly not my area, even though I do have some German items in my collection. The visor cap and the tunic with the cufftitle would have a large value to those who collect such things.
     
  12. Staffsyeoman

    Staffsyeoman Member

    The uniform with the cuff title belonged to a member of the SS-Fuhrungshauptamt [SS-FHA] - the central HQ of the SS in the Friedrichstrasse, making it an even more rare survivor, and yes, valuable.
     
  13. Packhow75

    Packhow75 Senior Member

    Post your find details here - Wehrmacht-Awards.com - they will no doubt be able to advise on value etc.

    Tim
     
  14. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    This "find" has been posted on many forums recently and has been thought to be original to the period by those who know about such items. Certainly not my area, even though I do have some German items in my collection. The visor cap and the tunic with the cufftitle would have a large value to those who collect such things.

    Cor, then if genuine - scary money.
    Always very cynical of attic or 'Genuine veteran find' German stuff on the internet. You see so much over the years which the experts pooh pooh, or turns out to be a dodgy scam.

    Having nearly soiled myself at the price of a German hat once; putting aside the jacket, how much does a decent plain-ish Feldmutze like the one above go for these days? SS or otherwise.
     
  15. Bond

    Bond Senior Member

    Cor, then if genuine - scary money.
    Always very cynical of attic or 'Genuine veteran find' German stuff on the internet. You see so much over the years which the experts pooh pooh, or turns out to be a dodgy scam.

    Having nearly soiled myself at the price of a German hat once; putting aside the jacket, how much does a decent plain-ish Feldmutze like the one above go for these days? SS or otherwise.

    Prices for German WWII headgear start at £300 ish and more depending on the unit, panzer would be more than infantry for instance, SS would be add a nought and then some perhaps. The peaked field cap M43 pattern as shown above are more again than the figure I mentioned, basic M34 or an army visor cap start at the those sort of prices. The black SS visor would be many 1000's of £'s.
     
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  17. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    It was a very proper-looking Panzer cap for £800 which somewhat 'surprised' my Brother & I at Beltring one year, and that was nearly a decade ago so I can only assume Prices have gone even more Northwards since.

    Crazy Market - the old chap selling that cap had a vast collection amassed in a postwar English childhood, from Uboat Pennants to medals, and appeared to be clearing his shelves for a rather comfortable retirement.

    It is a militaria collection plain and simple ,the poster is making no comment other than documenting their finding. I for one appreciate him taking the time to post it here.
    I share this opinion.

    Like it or not, this stuff is interesting to many of us.
    We're not much of a Militaria forum really, & as mentioned there are other much more specialist places (though I know we have some genuine experts tucked away - some of whom have chosen silence over the years), but I'll nearly always be happy to see bits and pieces that are part of the WW2 story, from SS to the Home Guard and all points between.
    I'm not a Militaria collector (cameras are my collectorish vice), but these things always make me wonder how exactly they got where they are now, and I think our record's not bad at keeping most who get too, ahem, 'excitable' :unsure: about Nazi things at bay.

    (We've also done OK at avoiding the traditional excesses associated with sale of some Militaria. This forum's only view there is 'Caveat Emptor' - If you're not personally expert, expect trouble. And remember that the Market can be a Minefield - not one that voices on the Internerd can guide you through with any assurance...)

    Got any Interesting Militaria? Feel free to show & tell - I for one would like to see it.
     
  18. Swiper

    Swiper Resident Sospan

    If you're not personally expert, expect trouble. And remember that the Market can be a Minefield - not one that voices on the Internerd can guide you through with any assurance...)


    Very true I used to waste lots of cash on just post-war 53 Div insignia before I finally learned the 12 or so wartime variations and began listing all the types of postwar insignia, and plain dealer created knock-offs...
     
  19. devincu

    devincu Junior Member

    I am sorry I didn't mean to offend anyone I just wanted to show a rare piece of militaria as that is what I thought this section was for. I saw other German WWII relics and such so I will not bother posting any more pictures on this section...On a side note for anyone who thinks this uniform is repo ... I don't really care. A well known collector/dealer of high end militaria flew to my home town over the weekend just to see it.
     
  20. devincu

    devincu Junior Member

    Interesting to view so thank you for posting. Not an expert in uniforms by any stretch of the imagination but is the shirt on the right hand side of the collection German?

    I'd be interested to know about the guy who brought the stuff home from Europe. What do you know about him?

    Thank you for not bashing but for seeing this as it really is a piece of history!! The shirt is US...I would say late war because of the style. There are 2 US Army uniform caps one is an overseas cap with light blue infantry piping and the other is a visor cap that were also found with this stuff. The vet who brought it home was a PFC in the 2nd Infantry Div. I have his name and would love to find out more on him. I have many WWII unit history books but none on the 2nd ID to check the roster. His son may be giving me his uniform and photos as well!!:rolleyes:
     
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