Anyone been there? I'm going over to Europe with Andrea (anywhere I want apparently), for upto two weeks, camping in September as long as it's not got anything to do with 1940 or Dunkirk. I got an old 'After the Battle' book a few weeks ago that has a good article on the race to the Eagles Nest in it. Lots of Then and Nows etc and wondered if it was worth visiting? The only other option at the moment seems driving down to the lakes in Italy according the 'her who must be obeyed'. Your thoughts are mucho appreciated on the Eagles Nest. Just found an old thread-Please feel free to move it to this one: http://www.ww2talk.com/forum/ww2-battlefields-today/5003-berchtesgaden.html Cheers
Hi Andy, I went up to Eagles nest way back in 2006. I found it a bit difficult to tell what was what, but if you have a guide such as After the Battle it should point you in the right direction for where Hitler and his Cronies houses were etc. From what I remember there is a small museum up there which has a fair bit of info. If you get a clear, sunny day the views from the top are breath taking. I would recommend a visit just to the significance of the place. Hope that helps
Drew, Search for "Berchtesgaden" on the forum and you will see that there was some discussion on the place back in 2006. Well worth the visit and the area is excellent for a holiday.If you have the time you might find the document centre interesting.The other interesting place is the underground shelters which can be accessed from the Turkem Hotel, (you may have to stay there to qualify) now back in the same family which ran it in the 1930s before it was "compulsory requisitioned" by Bormann when he became master of the Obersalzburg. The hotel was the SS officers mess and the Obersalzburg SS HQ.
Hi All, I was out there last year eagles nest is worth the visit, coal house bunker, documention centre bunkers and of course hotel turken, Frau Shaffenburg who owns it does allow people down there for a fee, but she does not allow people in to the hotel unless like me you stay there. Lots in the woods if you are up fo a bit of a hike, just a question of doing your homework depending on what you want to see, bunkers or buildings etc. By and large I found it very interesting you also have at the other end of the town the salt mine which again is well worth the visit. Steve
Andy, I purchased a good book on the Eagles Nest from a shop in Berchtesgaden. I was very interested to learn that a Wing Commander Oscar Oesler from Station X (Bletchley Park) parachuted in with airborne troops to capture the latest Radio encryption device, which was being used in the area, and which Bletchley Park could not crack. It appears that the story is correct but from the Allied side, not a lot is available, in fact next to nothing. When I enquired at Bletchley park regarding W.C. Oesler, I was given the brush off. Consulting a WW2 Historian it was confirmed to me that Oesler was indeed at Bletchley Park. The mission could well be the last one of the War. Very interesting but frustrating that there is no much on the subject. Post war, the author says that allied airborne equipment was found on Kehlstein Mountain from the operation, which is where the allied radio detection triangulated the radio traffic. The group were dropped as close as possible to the last known coordinates of the radio transmission. See attached entry from the book. Regards Tom
The book shop at the Berchtesgarden railway station has a good selection of historical books,reasonably priced when compared with those on sale at the Obersalzburg.The other point is to take the car up to the Obersalzburg level rather than use the service bus (its only a short journey) On the Obersalzburg level,however, to get to the Kehlstein,you will have to use the special bus.Apparently the local authority used normal Mercedes buses to run up to the Kehlstein when the venue was first opened to the public as a restaurant (which saved it from destruction by the Bavarian Goverment) 60 years ago.It must have required advanced driving skills to handle a bus equipped with normal gears.I believe the buses now have been manufactured to unique specification and are equipped with 10 forward gears.The road is considered to be impassible between October and May and so Kehlstein remains isolated to the visiting public
Drew would recommend that as a stop on a circular trip taking in Munich - Berchetsgarten - Oberammergau -Innsbruck - Salzburg and again Munich - great trip Cheers
Andy I've just got back from a tour to this area. I can recommend Munich - but be prepared to be disappointed by dachau (I thought it was very "sanitised") You could also include the bridge at Remagen, Nuremburg (lots to see here), and Bastogne - all worth a visit (the American memorial at Bastogne is particularly impressive) Stewart
Cheers for your comments. The trip was ment to be a non WW2 vacation for Andrea (She's Dunkirked out) but I've managed to squeeze and bit of my own way into the trip to Italy. I think we will be only visiting the Eagles Nest as we are only passing through on our way to the lakes in Italy. Has anyone used any camp sites in the area that they can recommend? Cheers Andy
Sol just sent me this fantastic link for some then and nows incase anyone is planning a visit in the future. Sadly I didn't know of the site before my trip but a lot of the location will be easy to find as I remember seeing some of those buildings. Berchtesgaden
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