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Discussion in 'Weapons, Technology & Equipment' started by KevinT, Feb 12, 2022.

  1. KevinT

    KevinT Senior Member

    Came across the attached and wondered if anyone knows what exactly a Tank Buster is.
    If 233654 is the census number then it falls within a batch of Sextons S233626 - S233925, there are 5 other Tank Busters listed but no census numbers given.

    Cheers

    Kevin

    C5678  pg0116 Tank Buster.jpg .
     
  2. Chris C

    Chris C Canadian

    Can we see that in higher res?
     
  3. KevinT

    KevinT Senior Member

    Hi Chris,

    Is this better?

    Cheers

    Kevin

    C5678 pg 0118 Tank Buster.jpg.jpg C5678 pg 0119 Tank Buster.jpg.jpg
     
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  4. idler

    idler GeneralList

    Perhaps somebody tried a 17-pr on a Ram?
     
  5. Dave55

    Dave55 Atlanta, USA

    It's too heavy to be an M18 and too light to be an M10.

    EDIT:

    Pretty close in weight to M7 Priest
     
  6. Richelieu

    Richelieu Well-Known Member

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  7. Chris C

    Chris C Canadian

    Well yes and no because it isn't the same image, but that's very interesting...

    I was thinking that the Ram 3.7" was actually 17 pounder but Richelieu has it right. There was an attempt to mount that gun as an SP AA gun on a Ram.
     
  8. Chris C

    Chris C Canadian

    Looking at Roger Lucy's book on the Ram though, the equipment is listed as totally 62,000 lbs, and moreover the timing doesn't match. The vehicle was shipped to the UK on SS Idefjord on 13 November 1942. edit: he mentions that the idea of a Ram 3.7" SP anti-tank gun was discussed in October 1943 but the British showed no interest - and that is much too close to November to be related.
     
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  9. Dave55

    Dave55 Atlanta, USA

    I like Richelieu's suggestion of Sexton. Seems a dead match for shipping weight.

    EDIT:

    Opps, 1942 was too early for a Sexton
     
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  10. Chris C

    Chris C Canadian

    Was there an attempt to mount the 17-pounder in the Sexton in place of the 25-pounder?
     
  11. Chris C

    Chris C Canadian

    Sorry for the stream of consciousness posts. Roger Lucy's book again does talk about discussion of potentially mounting the 17 pr in the Sexton, but long story short, none were built [at least, according to him]. Similarly with the idea of a 3.7" gun on the Grizzly (Canadian M4A1). Bottom line is, I have failed to find any info about what these were.
     
  12. Richelieu

    Richelieu Well-Known Member

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  13. Chris C

    Chris C Canadian

    Roger Lucy shows that as a 3" M10 turret on a Ram, rather than 17 pdr.
     
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  14. Richelieu

    Richelieu Well-Known Member

    Yes, of course it was the U.S. M7 3” gun Chris – sorry about that but my brain has been in neutral all day! To compound my shame, I knew that the Canadian 17-pdr M10 project was stalled by the unavailability of the 17-pdr!
     
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  15. Chris C

    Chris C Canadian

    Not to worry!

    In any case, we're left with a mystery about exactly what this "tank buster" was, which fascinates me. As everyone has said, they were obviously fairly heavy.

    There IS a file at Library and Archives Canada under "tank buster": RG24-C-2, Volume number: 10075, File number: 13/TANK BUSTERS/1. Date listed is 1943/11-1943/12. If someone else can take a look, fantastic. Maybe I can get someone to copy it, actually, since I can't get to the archives these days.
     
  16. KevinT

    KevinT Senior Member

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  17. Chris C

    Chris C Canadian

    An amphibious truck? I don't think that is what anyone would call an LVT a truck.

    Also per wikipedia, that's about half the weight of an LVT-4.
     
  18. DogDodger

    DogDodger Active Member

    According to TMs 9-775 and 9-776, the shipping weights and volumes for LVT2 and LVT4 were 24,400 lb and 23,550 lb, and 2,308 and 2,367 cubic feet, respectively. DUKW can probably also be ruled out as the given weight is near its gross weight including payload.
     
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  19. KevinT

    KevinT Senior Member

    Universal Carrier query.
    The attached is a screen shot from Canadian Heritage Directorate of Movements file C5666 page 1934

    https://heritage.canadiana.ca/view/oocihm.lac_reel_c5666/1934

    It shows a number of Universal Carriers that have VC within the U/C serial. This is the the first time I have seen VC listed in over a thousand serials I have seen within these files.

    Does anyone know or can confirm what the VC stands for.

    Cheers

    Kevin
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  20. KevinT

    KevinT Senior Member

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