MOD abbreviations

Discussion in 'Service Records' started by Sharon Hannant, Jul 21, 2019.

  1. Hello everyone. I've just received my grandad's military service records and it's full of abbreviations. One such abbreviation is the cause of becoming non-effective. The initials are MUK?? Can anyone help please??
     
  2. Charley Fortnum

    Charley Fortnum Dreaming of Red Eagles

    It's much, much easier to figure out the meanings of abbreviatons in full context, and misreadings of old handwriting are extremely common.

    If you upload (sharp) photos of the entire page in question, I'm certain we (collectively) can decode it all.
     
  3. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery Patron

  4. This is the form I was referring to
     
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  7. Tullybrone

    Tullybrone Senior Member

    Hi,

    Thanks for attaching a portion the front of his Army Form B102 - the Central Registry Index Card. The obverse usually contains a lot of helpful information - albeit in a shorthand form - that is more fully recorded on the Army Form B103 forms and other forms provided by MOD for this pre war regular soldier who would’ve been mobilised from the reserve on the outbreak of hostilities in 1939.

    It is difficult to interpret a one line “shorthand” entry without looking for “corroborating” fuller format entries on the other forms but in the absence of any of the other forms I’ll take a “punt” and guess that it is a random entry in a “gap” on his B102 that has nothing to do with the reason for his becoming non effective but it might be R/U.K. 14.1.1946?

    Does it say elsewhere that he returned (was repatriated?) to U.K. on or about 14th Jan 1946?

    Steve
     
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  8. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    It looks more like 'A/UK 14 - 1 - 1946' to me - what other docs do you have can you upload them as well - by the way you can upload more than one image per post

    TD
     
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  9. Tullybrone

    Tullybrone Senior Member

    Thanks for that Richard.

    If the “A” is correct it might mean that he was a Class A release for demobilisation in U.K. 14th January 1946?

    He would actually be a time expired Regular Soldier by that time and his papers would’ve likely been stamped that he went on to the Royal Army Reserve (under post war demobilisation rules) until he attained 45 years.

    Steve
     
  10. There are numerous documents. One such is Army Form B200b which states :
    Proceeded on release leave on 13/10/45

    Released to z class Royal army reserve 14/1/46
    (Class A release)
     
  11. Tullybrone

    Tullybrone Senior Member

    Hi,

    Thanks for the response. I think we’ve answered your query now?

    The Class Z Reserve classification was an immediate post war mechanism (also used post WW1) to facilitate the rapid expansion of U.K. forces if another conflict erupted (Cold War). It “trumped” the normal “time expired” status of a Regular Soldier (who ordinarily would have no obligation of a recall to service) so that he remained on the Class Z Reserve and liable to recall until attaining 45 years of age.

    Steve
     
  12. Charley Fortnum

    Charley Fortnum Dreaming of Red Eagles

    Well spotted.

    As you say, it's probably an 'A'. The cross stroke is very light and has been extended to link with the slash.

    Sharon, if you can post an image of the main page that lists his postings, dates and locations, we can see where this chap was and who he was with.

    As Tullybone says, the one you want is often labelled Army Form B103 at the top (although I've seen it cut off by clumsy photocopying).
     
  13. Stuart Avery

    Stuart Avery In my wagon & not a muleteer.

    Charley, i would go with Steve. Its R.. Released to Class Z (T) Reserve. 12 (a) Date..Which ever one. See the images below which is in Full image ( and not in Thumbnail!) it does help in this case of reading poor handwriting. The (T) may mean territorial ? A4-6.jpg

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    Stu.

    Edit, Sharon, its looks has if your Grandfather did quite a stint. If you don't mind, could you post some more pages of his Service records? Others may have not clocked that..
     
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  14. Charley Fortnum

    Charley Fortnum Dreaming of Red Eagles

    Not 100% convinced, Stu.

    The final stroke that Sharon has as the last vertical line of an 'M' is longer than that of any other letters and matches (roughly) the slash in the date that follows.

    It's 'A' or 'R'.
     
  15. I will certainly try to post some more of his records. There's quite alot of them
     
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  16. Stuart Avery

    Stuart Avery In my wagon & not a muleteer.

    Sharon, if you are struggling with the downloads, then start a conversation with myself & i will post them for you? It can be somewhat difficult when it comes to posting images of which (each post is a max of 2mb!) You will probably have to resize each image. It looks has if he started out with Royal Northumberland Fusiliers 13-8-28.. If he ended his service with them on the 14/1/46 then that would be rather rare.

    Charley, its not 'A'. In my eyes I'm reading 'R', Released / UK. Not MUK

    Regards,
    Stu.
     
  17. Charley Fortnum

    Charley Fortnum Dreaming of Red Eagles

    Regardless of whose eyes are better (probably yours, mine have been dodgy lately--too much paperwork and screentime), the meaning here is fortunately the same:

    R/UK is released UK, and his class of release in 1946 was 'A'.

    I'm sure if Sharon can get the main pages up we can decipher most of this man's service history,
     
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  18. Stuart Avery

    Stuart Avery In my wagon & not a muleteer.

    Lets hope that Sharon does.

    Regards,
    Stu.
     
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  20. Here are some of grandad's service records. 15643975117705778370441880235417.jpg 15643976153399124440374827443551.jpg 15643977250482843090753844320918.jpg 15643977819787083631442809664566.jpg
     

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