Missing Award Recommedations, Greece in December 1944 / January 1945 - WO 373

Discussion in 'Research Material' started by gmyles, Jun 7, 2015.

  1. gmyles

    gmyles Senior Member

    Hi Everyone

    I have been trying to find, using TNA's Discovery Search Engine, the award recommendations (WO 373) for those individuals who were awarded Military Crosses and Military Medals whilst on counter insurgency operations in Greece in December 1944/ January 1945 and the vast majority are just not showing up. There awards however are appropriately posted in the London Gazette. These awards number close to 100.

    One example is 109337, Captain Victor Henry Band, 331 Company Royal Army Service Corps, who was awarded a Military Cross for his part in the defence of the infantry barracks in Athens (Rear HQ 23rd Armoured Brigade) from an massed ELAS attack on 13 December 1944 . I know this from various war diaries and a chapter from a book about the history of the RASC in WW2. But there is no official recommendation found on a 'WO 373' Discovery search using his name and service no.

    I have found some other files about this time in Greece are 'closed' for 75 years. Could this explain Discoveries lack of results when I am searching?

    What can I do to establish that they even exist if Discovery just comes up with a blank?

    And if they do exist, what can I do to actually see these recommendations? A FOI request?

    Thanks in advance

    Gus
     
  2. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

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  3. bamboo43

    bamboo43 Very Senior Member

  4. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    I only looked through a few and they seemed to be too early for you under Greece and Crete. I think all the 41/42 citations will be for Crete in the main. I can say though that they don't have all the citations. There's at least one BEF citation missing which I'd dearly love to see and that's 2nd Lt's R Cresswell's Military Cross for his defence of the Blockhouse north of Cassel.
     
  5. gmyles

    gmyles Senior Member

    Hi

    I found this on a Durham Light Infantry Website. http://16dli.awardspace.com/page48.html

    Citation still withheld by HM Government because of its supposedly politically sensitive nature: MM awarded for actions in Greece on the night of 13th-14th December 1944.

    So is HMG withholding every gallantry medal awarded during the troubles?

    There is no problem finding recommendations for OBEs, MBEs, CBEs, and those brave troops who drove trucks and ambulances whilst under fire are easily found on discovery. But actual combat troops are 'missing'.

    This has to be something fishy?

    Gus
     
  6. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    Just a thought - would it be worth a Freedom Of Information request? it might tell you the reason why (if there is one) they haven't been made publically accessible. The other aspect from that is if they provide a reason as to why you cannot access them yet, then there is proof that the documents do actually exist (somewhere).

    TD
     
  7. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    Stick in a FOI request as mentioned above - The sad thing is you'll have to pay for them. No one would have been able to download them when they were all free :lol:
     
  8. Mr Jinks

    Mr Jinks Bit of a Cad

    Yes they are withheld as Politically sensitive no awards for the ELAS period. I`m afraid :(


    Kyle
     
  9. dbf

    dbf Moderatrix MOD

    This won't really help in your case, but a few LG dates seem to be missing from the archives, no idea why, but I think it'd be rather odd if they were all withheld from public domain.

    General rule of thumb for others having difficulties - if you can't find a file on TNA, check the London Gazette entry and search TNA for others gazetted on the same date, within the same award category. Then you know that it isn't just one listing.

    [I did once find an unindexed (posthumous MiD) award - in amongst those for 'PsOW'. Man took part in same operation, was in same unit, but taken POW, and only awarded after his liberation. MiD probably awarded based on his testimony.]

    Also useful for searches is Geoff's page, under both WO 373 nos. and also by theatre. http://www.********.co.uk/WW2data/awardindex.html
    These can be searched using usual keyboard shortcuts... helps a lot if you are unsure of someone's name, but know some combo of award, unit or theatre.



    I checked Band's LG date and he's not the only one missing from the TNA index. Nor is Theatre mentioned either...
    https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/36983/supplement/1427/data.pdf

    I hope you get somewhere with this. Good luck.
     
  10. gmyles

    gmyles Senior Member

    Hi everyone, here are the 98 individuals who I believe got gallantry medals during the troubles in Greece, but are not found in TNA's discovery.

    I am pretty sure there are more, especially given that the London Gazette only states the regiment/corps on the serviceman's entry into the army and not the corps/regiment they served with at the time of the award. Also for example 'Royal Artillery' offers very little information when trying to establish an individuals actual unit. I have put in the actual unit details that are known to me.


    Serv No. Surname Names Rank Established Unit Award London Gazette

    38573 Pritchard Charles Hilary Vaughan Brigadier (temporary) 2nd Independent Parachute Brigade Distinguished Service Order https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/36983/supplement/1427/data.pdf

    255220 Butt Arthur St. Clair Eagles Lieutenant 46th Royal Tank Regiment Military Cross https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/36983/supplement/1427/data.pdf

    300118 Watts Arthur Lyndon Lieutenant 46th Royal Tank Regiment Military Cross https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/36983/supplement/1427/data.pdf

    262531 Legg Stanley Philip Lieutenant 2 Parachute Squadron, RE Military Cross https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/36983/supplement/1427/data.pdf

    334467 Standish-White Dennis William Lieutenant 1238 Field Company, RE Military Cross https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/36983/supplement/1427/data.pdf

    129252 Stobart Oliver Major (temporary) 11th Battalion, KRRC Military Cross https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/36983/supplement/1427/data.pdf

    207497 Cobbold Peter Fromantiel Lieutenant 11th Battalion, KRRC Military Cross https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/36983/supplement/1427/data.pdf

    109337 Band Victor Henry Band Captain (temporary) 331st Company, RASC Military Cross https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/36983/supplement/1427/data.pdf

    Waiting for the waggon by D.J. Sutton (History of RASC in WW2), page 201

    155221 Findlay Ronald John Major (temporary) 57th Light Anti-Aircraft Regiment, RA Bar to Military Cross https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/37072/supplement/2455/data.pdf

    History of 4th Indian Infantry Division in Greece (WO 204/8301)

    251967 Williamson John Denis Telford Lieutenant 4th Reconnaissance Regiment Military Cross https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/37072/supplement/2455/data.pdf

    187511 Gooden Leslie Oswald Captain (temporary) 64th Light Anti-Aircraft (LAA) Regiment, RA Military Cross https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/37072/supplement/2455/data.pdf

    232955 Morwood Bryan Lieutenant 64th (Para) Light Field Battery, RA Military Cross https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/37072/supplement/2455/data.pdf

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/11066357/Bryan-Morwood-obituary.html

    271743 Barnes John Valentine Lieutenant 7th Field Company, RE Military Cross https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/37072/supplement/2455/data.pdf

    113573 Leigh Robert Arthur Captain (temporary) 2nd Battalion, 5 Leicestershire Regiment Military Cross https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/37072/supplement/2455/data.pdf


    http://www.royalleicestershireregiment.org.uk/_ui/citations/159%20Leigh%20MC%20citation%2010%20May%2045.pdf


    149441 Walker Godfrey Frederick Major (temporary) 2nd Battalion, 5 Leicestershire Regiment Military Cross https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/37072/supplement/2455/data.pdf

    http://www.royalleicestershireregiment.org.uk/_ui/citations/158%20Walker%20MC%20citation%2010%20May%2045.pdf


    251309 Farrar-Hockley Anthony Heritage Major (acting) 6th Battalion, Parachute Regiment Military Cross https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/37072/supplement/2455/data.pdf

    180599 Neill John Morriss Captain (acting) 6th Battalion, Parachute Regiment Military Cross https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/37072/supplement/2455/data.pdf

    301547 Cassidy George Lieutenant 5th Battalion, Parachute Regiment Military Cross https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/37072/supplement/2455/data.pdf

    173635 Mackay Alexander Struthers Major (temporary) 2nd Mobile Petrol Filling Company, RASC Military Cross https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/37072/supplement/2455/data.pdf

    Waiting for the waggon by D.J. Sutton (History of RASC in WW2), page 202

    246250 Daly Clive Henry Kirkpatrick Captain 5th Battalion, Parachute Regiment Military Cross https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/37072/supplement/2455/data.pdf

    E.C.6693 Craig Richard Josepih Wauchope Lieutenant 3rd Battalion, 10th Baluch Regiment Military Cross https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/37072/supplement/2455/data.pdf

    The Royal Leicestershire Regiment, 17th Foot A History of the Year 1928 to 1956

    4611989 Knott Henry Private 2nd Battalion, 5 Leicestershire Regiment
    https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/37072/supplement/2455/data.pdf


    History of 3rd Baluch 10 Regiment by Lt-Col W.E. Maxwell, Page 151


    35118 I.O. Mohd Sakhi Jemadur 3rd Battalion, 10th Baluch Regiment Military Cross https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/37072/supplement/2455/data.pdf

    History of 3rd Baluch 10 Regiment by Lt-Col W.E. Maxwell, Page 151

    46958 I.O. Ram Kara Jemadur 3rd Battalion, 10th Baluch Regiment Military Cross https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/37072/supplement/2455/data.pdf

    MZ-22328 Nair Balakrishna Captain 12 RFFR, Indian Army Medical Corps Military Cross https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/37072/supplement/2455/data.pdf

    The Frontier Force Regiment. Compiled by Brigadier W.E.H. Condon, Page 299.

    3O976V Vogelman Nathan Captain (acting) 6th Battalion, Parachute Regiment Military Cross https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/37072/supplement/2455/data.pdf

    6154V Norton Lionel Grey Lieutenant 57th Light Anti-Aircraft Regiment, RA Military Cross https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/37072/supplement/2455/data.pdf

    7887223 Hebbes Charles Corporal 46th Royal Tank Regiment Military Medal https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/36983/supplement/1427/data.pdf

    7949695 Kenyon John Corporal 46th Royal Tank Regiment Military Medal https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/36983/supplement/1427/data.pdf

    http://www.london-medals.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=13434

    6398961 Baker Ambrose Arthur Trooper 50th Royal Tank Regiment Military Medal https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/36983/supplement/1427/data.pdf

    7948360 Curtis Thomas Frank Trooper 46th Royal Tank Regiment Military Medal https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/36983/supplement/1427/data.pdf

    7941018 Waterston Albert Cecil Trooper Royal Armoured Corps Military Medal https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/36983/supplement/1427/data.pdf

    2035671 Mitchell Frank Walter Gunner 66th Light Anti-Aircraft Regiment, RA Military Medal https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/36983/supplement/1428/data.pdf

    http://www.dnw.co.uk/auction-archive/catalogue-archive/lot.php?auction_id=95&lot_id=56206



    1911651 Benn John Victor Corporal Corps of Royal Engineers Military Medal https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/36983/supplement/1428/data.pdf

    1912931 Winter Thomas Harold Corporal 1238 Fd Coy, RE Military Medal https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/36983/supplement/1428/data.pdf

    1764676 Parfitt Frank Llewellyn Driver 1238 Field Company, RE Military Medal https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/36983/supplement/1428/data.pdf

    2365720 Stevenson Henry William Corporal 23rd Armoured Brigade Signals Military Medal https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/36983/supplement/1428/data.pdf


    WO 170/2493 - War Diary of 23 Arm Bde Signals - 13 December 1944.


    6849051 Parker Christopher George Sergeant 11th Battalion, KRRC Military Medal https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/36983/supplement/1428/data.pdf

    14233678 Clarke Henry Rifleman 11th Battalion, KRRC Military Medal https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/36983/supplement/1428/data.pdf

    6898968 Fink Harry Rifleman 11th Battalion, KRRC Military Medal https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/36983/supplement/1428/data.pdf

    6095053 Kemp Robert Rifleman 11th Battalion, KRRC Military Medal https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/36983/supplement/1428/data.pdf

    14255187 Wilmot Albert Charles Rifleman 11th Battalion, KRRC Military Medal https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/36983/supplement/1428/data.pdf

    14348736 Jamieson David Private 2nd Battalion, HLI Military Medal https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/36983/supplement/1428/data.pdf

    T77576503 Prickett Walter Driver 331st Company, RASC Military Medal https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/36983/supplement/1428/data.pdf

    Waiting for the waggon by D.J. Sutton (History of RASC in WW2), page 201.

    6085973 Reeves Cyril Walter Sergeant Royal Army Medical Corps Military Medal https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/36983/supplement/1428/data.pdf

    5113580 Jackson Thomas 1238 Fd Coy, Army Catering Corps Military Medal https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/36983/supplement/1428/data.pdf

    4863949 Sibson Harold Sergeant 2nd Battalion, 5 Leicestershire Regiment Distinguished Conduct Medal https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/37072/supplement/2455/data.pdf

    http://www.royalleicestershireregiment.org.uk/_ui/citations/162%20Sibson%20DCM%20citation%2010%20May%2045.pdf


    405322 Edwards Edward Wallace Corporal 50th Royal Tank Regiment Military Medal https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/37072/supplement/2455/data.pdf

    http://www.london-medals.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=13479

    869961 Doran Peter WO2 77 Field Regiment, RA Military Medal https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/37072/supplement/2455/data.pdf

    816938 Behan Lawrence Thomas Sergeant Royal Regiment of Artillery Military Medal https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/37072/supplement/2455/data.pdf

    937816 Lambert Edward Walter William Sergeant 1 Field Regiment RA Military Medal https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/37072/supplement/2455/data.pdf

    1605981 Preston Stanley William Sergeant 57th Light Anti-Aircraft Regiment, RA Military Medal https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/37072/supplement/2455/data.pdf

    825554 Parker John Stanley Sergeant (acting) 11 Field Regiment RA Military Medal https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/37072/supplement/2455/data.pdf

    14281861 Chalmers James Gunner 64th Light Anti-Aircraft Regiment, RA, Military Medal https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/37072/supplement/2455/data.pdf

    5883659 Chillingsworth William Gunner 64th Light Anti-Aircraft Regiment, RA Military Medal https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/37072/supplement/2455/data.pdf

    14246146 Hulmes Joseph Lionel Gunner 64th Light Anti-Aircraft Regiment, RA Military Medal https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/37072/supplement/2455/data.pdf

    14297539 McGowan Daniel Gunner 77 Field Regiment RA Military Medal https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/37072/supplement/2455/data.pdf

    7016182 Bates Alfred Edward Sapper Corps of Royal Engineers Military Medal https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/37072/supplement/2455/data.pdf

    2319369 Grattage Samuel CQMS HQ G Coy Air Form Sigs, RCS Military Medal https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/37072/supplement/2455/data.pdf

    6407094 McKie William Lance-Sergeant 2nd Battalion, RF Military Medal https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/37072/supplement/2455/data.pdf

    14400435 Lewis Lawrence Private The King's Regiment Military Medal https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/37072/supplement/2455/data.pdf

    5193305 Fitton H Private Z Battery Raiding Support Regiment Military Medal
    https://www.flickr.com/photos/medals/1631476489/in/album-72157602521584762/

    6012239 Eve George Morris Lance-Sergeant 1st Battalion, 4th Essex Regiment Military Medal https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/37072/supplement/2455/data.pdf

    6026397 Chinnick Henry Herbert Corporal (Acting) 1st Battalion, 4th Essex Regiment Military Medal https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/37072/supplement/2455/data.pdf

    1433647 Peckett John Private 16th Battalion, DLI Military Medal https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/37072/supplement/2456/data.pdf


    The D.L.I. at War The History of the Durham Light Infantry 1939-1945, By David Rissik


    3309397 Bryson John Sergeant 5th Battalion, Parachute Regiment Military Medal https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/37072/supplement/2456/data.pdf

    4198458 Fitton Noel Howarth Sergeant 6th Battalion, Parachute Regiment Military Medal https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/37072/supplement/2456/data.pdf

    4201547 Thomas John Sergeant 6th Battalion, Parachute Regiment Military Medal https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/37072/supplement/2456/data.pdf

    3531506 Yates Norman Sergeant 1st Independent Parachute Platoon Military Medal https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/37072/supplement/2456/data.pdf

    4455797 Reiber Robert August Lance-Sergeant 5th Battalion, Parachute Regiment Military Medal https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/37072/supplement/2456/data.pdf

    4198199 Parry Frank Corporal 6th Battalion, Parachute Regiment Military Medal https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/37072/supplement/2456/data.pdf

    5350468 Hurry George William Lance-Corporal 6th Battalion, Parachute Regiment Military Medal https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/37072/supplement/2456/data.pdf

    6146456 McCarthy Hubert Lance-Corporal 6th Battalion, Parachute Regiment Military Medal https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/37072/supplement/2456/data.pdf

    2700466 Anderson William Private 5th Battalion, Parachute Regiment Military Medal https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/37072/supplement/2456/data.pdf

    3137482 Fleck John Private 5th Battalion, Parachute Regiment Military Medal https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/37072/supplement/2456/data.pdf

    5125689 Pound William Jonah Private 6th Battalion, Parachute Regiment Military Medal https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/37072/supplement/2456/data.pdf

    4274959 Wood Ralph Private 6th Battalion, Parachute Regiment Military Medal https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/37072/supplement/2456/data.pdf

    T/133812 Carter John Walter Belcher Driver 331st Company, RASC Military Medal https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/37072/supplement/2456/data.pdf

    T/267603 Hobson Horace Driver 331st Company, RASC Military Medal https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/37072/supplement/2456/data.pdf

    T/5958524 King Leonard Gordon Driver Royal Army Service Corps Military Medal https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/37072/supplement/2456/data.pdf

    T/10694560 Straw Charles Driver Royal Army Service Corps Military Medal https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/37072/supplement/2456/data.pdf

    7389579 Bennett Fred Corporal 6th Battalion, Parachute Regiment Military Medal https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/37072/supplement/2456/data.pdf

    7346759 Tighe Kelly Thomas Corporal 6th Battalion, RAMC Military Medal https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/37072/supplement/2456/data.pdf

    2846 Mall Narbahadur Naik (acting) 1st Battalion, 9th Gurkha Rifles Military Medal https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/37072/supplement/2456/data.pdf

    95243 Mall Tirthabahadur Lance-Naik 1st Battalion, 9th Gurkha Rifles Military Medal https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/37072/supplement/2456/data.pdf

    102249 Karki Ratnabahadar Rifleman 1st Battalion, 9th Gurkha Rifles Military Medal https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/37072/supplement/2456/data.pdf

    99559 Kalhanu Sepoy Indian Army Medical Corps Military Medal https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/37072/supplement/2456/data.pdf

    H.91393 Ram Prasad Sepoy Indian Army Medical Corps Military Medal https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/37072/supplement/2456/data.pdf

    P/16422 SILBERBUSCH P. Sergeant The Palestine Regiment Military Medal https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/37072/supplement/2456/data.pdf


    Gus
     
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  11. gmyles

    gmyles Senior Member

    Hi

    FOI Request sent.

    Bit difficult to cram the above post in a form that only accepts 1000 characters, but we'll just have to wait and see,

    Gus
     
  12. bamboo43

    bamboo43 Very Senior Member

    I wish you luck Gus. One or two files with a similar sensitivity have just been opened at Kew. These were personnel files for men involved with SOE work in Burma. In this instance they were waiting for the individuals 100th birthday (if you see what I mean).
     
  13. gmyles

    gmyles Senior Member

    HI Bamboo43

    In this case, it would appear that they are trying to protect the politicians and decision makers of the time. But everyone of them is most certainly dead by now.

    Fingers crossed I'll get what i am after. Otherwise it's a letter to the information commissioner.

    I have made contact with people who are relatives of some of these heroes and they have absolutely no idea what their relatives did and at the moment they can't get that info either.

    Some took a bit of convincing that their relative was actually in Greece (ie. they were awarded an Italy Star for service in Greece, not Italy).

    I can help them a bit with what I have from Books and War Diaries, but the original award recommendations are the best source of information.

    Gus
     
  14. gmyles

    gmyles Senior Member

    Hi Everyone,

    Here is the response I received from TNA.

    Dear Mr Myles

    Thank you for your email.

    The series WO 373 is described as "surviving successful recommendations (often referred to as citations), forwarded from theatres of operations, for awards to British army personnel and those of the dominions. Also included here are papers concerning awards to the Royal Navy, Royal Marines and Royal Air Force of decorations administered by the War Office, and records relating to the exchange of decorations between British and allied armies. There are awards made during campaigns, for 'non-operational' gallantry, and those announced in half-yearly honours lists.
    Until the mid-1950s, procedures in the Military Secretary's department of the War Office provided for the removal of the recommendations from the pertinent correspondence and their inclusion in a numbered series which was accessed by means of a card index. Thus, it is unusual for registered files relating to honours and awards announced prior to 1950 to have survived; those that have are included in this series."

    The series is therefore incomplete, but we have made available all those that we hold.


    So a bi fat zero from TNA. If the "computer says no", then we are to infer that they must have been removed by someone prior to mid 1950s.

    Unimpressed.

    Gus
     
  15. bamboo43

    bamboo43 Very Senior Member

    Very frustrating reply Gus. Doesn't sound as though they have any real knowledge of why these recommendations have been held back or withdrawn.
     
  16. idler

    idler GeneralList

    To be fair to them, they can only deal with what they're given. I wonder what sort of guidelines the ministries have regarding disposal vs 'national archiving' of documents. It would have been so easy to have skipped most of what has been saved...
     
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  19. gmyles

    gmyles Senior Member

    Good spot Bamboo43. :)

    Thanks a lot.

    Gus
     
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