Misconceptions of who did a big part of world war 2

Discussion in 'General' started by Daniel Whitfield, May 26, 2019.

  1. Hi guy I’m new to this forum and any forum like it I’m a amateur history buff on world war 2 I thought I knew a lot about it but recently I started to search and take note on who had a big part in the war now I know the ussr had a Massive role with there lose of men and women more then others and most of Europe against the nazis but when searching my answer all points towards the us im from the uk and know we had a big part in most of not all of world war to conflicts on nearly all continents but us seem to take all the glory I’m slightly annoyed at this as the British was one of the first to defend Europe and gave a a lot in doing so am I correct in thinking this thanks guys and girls
     
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  2. Lindele

    Lindele formerly HA96

    Hi Daniel,

    welcome to the forum.
    Very interesting question, not sure, it was not already discussed before.
    Stefan.
     
  3. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    Well, the problem with a question such as that would be - what parameters are you using to compare a nations 'part' in the war??

    Numbers in military service/civilian population ratio
    Numbers killed
    Length of time in the war
    Amount of materials supplied/used

    Its a big open question

    TD
     
  4. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

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  5. Tony56

    Tony56 Member Patron

    A view here:
     
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  6. idler

    idler GeneralList

    The bottom line is that every country commemorates its own efforts.
    Except us because we either conned or coerced everyone else in to doing the fighting for us so we should feel really guilty; apparently.
     
  7. Dave55

    Dave55 Atlanta, USA

    Welcome Daniel.

    I hope you become a regular reader of the forum. I've learned a lot from it.
     
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  8. jeqline

    jeqline New Member

    Some of the leading historians of the Second World War debunk nine widely held assumptions about the global conflagration
     
  9. idler

    idler GeneralList

    I'm sure they do - but where?
     
  10. bamboo43

    bamboo43 Very Senior Member

    :)
     
  11. jeqline

    jeqline New Member

    Mod edit: what looks like a spam link removed.
    Bye
     
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  12. Dave55

    Dave55 Atlanta, USA

    Welcome.

    Stick around.
     
  13. ltdan

    ltdan Nietenzähler

    advance 2.jpg Even the transport animals were fearsome tank killers
    advance.jpg wich enabled the troops of fast movements under any circumstances
    pzi.JPG Of perfect and flawless design to cause fear amongst the enemy

    whereas the mighty Luftwaffe swept the skies
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  14. TriciaF

    TriciaF Junior Member

    Going back to the OP - we lived in rural France for 17 years and, talking to the locals, I was also a bit fed up at the little credit the UK was given for the early battles (eg Dunkirk) continual support and final liberations.
    No mention of the Russians this was SW France.
    By the time the USA entered the war the British had been trying to oppose the Nazis for a few years and were worn out - of money and manpower. But thank God for the Americans you did save the day and suffered huge losses. That's why the French people I spoke to remember you first.
    ps they hate Trump though.
     
  15. Uncle George

    Uncle George Active Member

    The United Nations (as they called themselves) together won the war, but it is difficult to see how US and USSR would have entered an alliance had the British Empire gone down in 1940. (As I see things.) So Britain’s role is absolutely central.
     
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  16. Robert-w

    Robert-w Banned

    If the size of their butchers bill is the measure then the Soviets followed by the Chinese take gold and silver but like many questions the this one is somewhat simplistic. What does big part mean? Ability to soak up huge numbers of casualties? Masses of space to lead your enemy into and exhaust his resources? The most powerful industrial complex? Control of access to most of the world's natural resources with a navy to protect them?

    When it comes to coverage just ask yourself - who has the most powerful modern media?
     
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  17. canuck

    canuck Closed Account

    Canada, with a population of only 11 million in 1939, was never destined to play a big part in winning the war. We, like most countries, joined the Allied coalition as a role player in the collective effort. If there is any Canadian pride of achievement from WW2 it centres on our per capita contribution in terms of men and materials.
     
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  18. Robert-w

    Robert-w Banned

    Canada played a big part simply by being where she was on top of the world's largest source of nickle a vital component in modern weaponry and machine tools
     
  19. canuck

    canuck Closed Account

    Damn. Now you tell us!

    We could have all stayed home and simply sent over some metal shipments.

    1945 nickle.jpg
     
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  20. davidbfpo

    davidbfpo Patron Patron

    Now a very long time ago I read several of Williamson Murray's book on WW2 military effectiveness. He compares all the belligerents. See for pointers to his books: Williamson Murray - Wikipedia and university bio: Williamson Murray
     

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