Medal ribbon group

Discussion in 'Service Records' started by singeager, Oct 30, 2011.

  1. singeager

    singeager Senior Member

    Can any one identify the ribbons on this group?

    The 1939-1945 Star and War Medal are easy, but i need help with the others.

    there owner was a crane / D6 bulldoser / scrapper earthmover driver for the Royal Engineers during WW2 till 1946.

    It is known that at the end of the war he was a Cpl and responsible for training and instruction in the UK.

    Nothing is known of service overseas, perhaps the awards can give a clue?

    thanks
     

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  2. Verrieres

    Verrieres no longer a member

    Hope this helps

    39-45 Star,Pacific Star,War Medal,Army LSGc medal, meritorious Service Medal





    Jim
     
  3. Tom Canning

    Tom Canning WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    Singeagar
    JIm has it to rights - NB - Pacific - not Burma - and pre war regular ...?
    Cheers
     
  4. Assam

    Assam Senior Member

    See post Below
     
  5. Verrieres

    Verrieres no longer a member

    He would have been a POW of the Japanese as any other other stars would indicate further service. I can tell you that he would have arrived in Malaya/Singapore/Hong Kong after 7th June 1941 as he is not displaying the Defence Medal ribbon.

    Do you have a name you can advise?, as this is the4 only way that his POW status can be verified.


    Regards

    Simon

    Hi Simon,
    He has his photo file titled;-
    Ernest Walker 2152049 royal engineers


    Best Wishes


    jim
     
  6. Assam

    Assam Senior Member

    Hi there Singeager,

    For the Army long service medal, you needed to be regular army & in for 18 years with a clean record.

    "A soldier who completes 18 years (15 years after 1977) reckonable service from date of attestation or age 17½, whichever is later, shall be eligible for consideration, though there are a number of offences/misconduct which would normally preclude award of the LS&GCM. Awards are only made after a comprehensive check of a soldier's record of service.

    As this medal requires the recommendation of the individuals' commanding officer, it can only be awarded to serving personnel"

    The Meritoerious Service Medal
    (current criteria - courtessy of the MOD web site)

    "Qualifying Criteria


    This same medal is issued to personnel in all the services, although the administration procedures differ between them. The eligibility criteria are the same for the Royal Navy, Royal Marines, Army and Royal Air Force. To become eligible for consideration, other ranks personnel must have 20 years reckonable service, attained the rank of substantive Sergeant (if in the Army or RAF) and be a holder of the Long Serrvice and Good Conduct Medal. Officers may be considered on one occasion only, immediately after commissioning, provided they meet the other criteria.
    Award of the Medal requires good, faithful, valuable and meritorious service with conduct judged to be irreproachable throughout. The Service Boards look for evidence of particular achievements, whether in the course of military duty or in extra-mural involvement which benefits the service or the public in the field of sport or such things as charitable work. To reinforce the special character of the MSM, limits are placed on the number that may be awarded annually. No more than 49 may be awarded in the RN, 3 in the RM, 89 in the Army and 60 in the RAF, though historically many fewer than these numbers are actually awarded."

    Your man was a prisoner of war of the Japanese, evidenced by the fact that no other WW2 service is visible on the ribbon bar.

    He would (in all likelyhood) have been in either Singapore/Malaya/Hong Kong.

    He would have arrived at his deployment sometime after June 7, 1941 (as he is not displaying the Defence Medal ribbon) as qualification for the Defence medal cut out on 7/12/ 1941 & would have not have had the time up otherwise.

    If you have a name , he can be researched in more detail.

    Regards

    simon
     
  7. Assam

    Assam Senior Member

    Hi Simon,
    He has his photo file titled;-
    Ernest Walker 2152049 royal engineers


    Best Wishes


    jim


    Hi Jim, sorry, it does not come out on my viewing of the pic.

    2152049 is an RE allocated number so it appears he stayed with them.

    COFEPOw only has 1 person by that name as a POW but a different number is listed (5949195) & going by the block number appears to have enlisted in Bedfordshire & Hertfordshire Regiment. However, COFEPOW is not a difinitive source as they are only listing from known JIC's that have survived.


    Regards

    Simon
     

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