Mary Seacole

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  1. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

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  2. Tonym

    Tonym WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    A gallant lady overshadowed by Florence Nightingale

  3. Smudger Jnr

    Smudger Jnr Our Man in Berlin

    I remember reading about this extraordinary lady many years ago and as Tony quite rightly pointed out, this Heroin always lived in the shadow of Florence Nightingale.

    Well done Clive for bringing it back to peoples attention once more.

  4. geoff501

    geoff501 Achtung Feind hört mit

  5. Sue Light

    Sue Light Member

    Her memoirs 'The Wonderful Adventures of Mrs Seacole in Many Lands' can be downloaded free here:

    It's written in a very 'modern' style that has appeal for readers today, and says a great deal about military life both in the West Indies in the first half of the 19th century, and during the Crimean War.

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  6. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

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  7. Myth?
    ‘The real story is quite different—it’s a perfectly decent story; but we shouldn’t be giving her credit for doing Nightingale’s work in founding nursing and in providing quality care for ordinary soldiers.’
    Professor Lynn McDonald (not to be confused with WW1 historian Lyn MacDonald), author of Mary Seacole: The Making of the Myth (2014).
    Mary Seacole: The Making of the Myth.” Youtube, 19 May 2014. One of seven short videos available here.

    Dedicated website: Mary Seacole Information

    McDonald, Lynn. “Would the Real Mary Seacole Please Stand Up and be Recognized?The War Correspondent, Vol.30, No.2, Jul 2012:
    McDonald, Lynn. “Florence Nightingale and Mary Seacole: Nursing’s Bitter Rivalry.History Today, Vol.62, No.9, Sep 2012. (Subscriber only):
    McDonald, Lynn. “Lessons in lies: How the BBC, school text books and even exam boards have twisted history to smear Florence Nightingale and make a saint of this woman.Daily Mail, 1 Aug 2014:
    McDonald, L. (2016), “Mary Seacole and claims of evidence‐based practice and global influence.” Nurs Open, 3: 5–18. doi:10.1002/nop2.32:
    Bomber Harris took time to devote two pages of his 1947 memoir Bomber Offensive to decrying the British habit of extolling others at the expense of our own achievements:
    Harris, Sir Arthur. Bomber Offensive. 1947. Barnsley: Pen & Sword, 2005. 63–5.
  8. Helen Rappaport, authoress of No Place for Ladies: The untold story of women in the Crimean War (2007) and other books, wrote:
    (“Mary Seacole: Guest post by Helen Rappaport,” The Virtual Victorian, 14 May 2013,

    A fascinating and eminently respectable person, it is good that people read about her life—but she should not be lionised to the extent of eclipsing Florence Nightingale; and it is questionable whether she merits a statue at all, let alone one taller than Florence’s.

    Mary Seacole’s Wonderful Adventures of Mrs. Seacole in Many Lands is available here on Gutenberg.
  9. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

    Its a headstone and memorial about Mary Seacole this is what many of my posts are about.
    I photograph them and put in a wiki link which gives a basic precise of the individual.

    The below is possibly why she has a statue.

    but she did run an informal daily clinic where those needing medical attention could go—be it for a dose of jollop for dysentery, to have a wound stitched or their frostbite treated—and where they would always find kindness, sympathy and the warm hearted welcome of a woman who offered a little piece of England in the midst of war. Such was the popularity of Mrs Seacole’s establishment and the tales of her kindnesses toward the sick and wounded that her name became legendary across the Crimea during 1855–6.

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