Marshal Mikhael Tukhachevskii

Discussion in 'Prewar' started by Gerard, Nov 10, 2008.

  1. Gerard

    Gerard Seelow/Prora

  2. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    twelve-year-old daughter learned of his death at school one day, when her classmates began to taunt her as the child of a "fascist traitor". Deeply traumatized, she went home and hanged herself. Tukhachevsky's widow was arrested....she later went insane and was last seen on the eve of her deportation to the Ural District, wearing a strait-jacket

    When reading of the effect that had on his family all I can think of Stalin as being one of the greatest Tossers in History.
     
  3. Gerard

    Gerard Seelow/Prora

    Funny, but I had exactly the same reaction when reading it Owen. He definitely was.
     
  4. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    Under a direct order from Tukhachevsky state-of-the-art chemical weapons were employed against the rebellious civilian population


    I was thinking he was no angel either until I read the last bit about what happened to his family. Yep, Have to agree Stalin was a Tosser.

    I'm I right in thinking Stalin has a glass top coffin like Lenin somewhere around Red Square and is portrayed/celebrated as a hero of the former Soviet Union?
     
  5. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

  6. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

  7. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    Being liquidated by Stalin does not however automatically make one a saint.

    I appreciate fully Tukhachevsky was a remarkable military mind and in the long run likely a ridiculous loss to the defence against Germany, but look up the Tambov Rebellion (among other 'incidents') to see how this ambitious career officer conducted his troops against starving peasants.
    Concentration camps and poison gas, whether at the behest of his leaders or not, were enthusiastically supported as effective measures.

    Live by the sword...

    (I can't get a better translation than this google one, but this somewhat garbled page of orders from Tukhachevsky is still 'interesting'. Translated version of http://hem.lidnet.se/~agzybirlik/tuhachvski.htm )
     
  8. Gerard

    Gerard Seelow/Prora

    Oh I wouldnt say I was a defender of him but the thought prevails, what if (Sory Owen, has to be asked) he was in charge at the time of the invasion in 1941 - would the army have fared any better? We'll never know but his successors had a hard time holding on and very nearly didnt.
     
  9. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    No Drew Stalin has a grave in the ground so the Kremlin.

    Joseph Stalin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    His body was preserved in Lenin's Mausoleum until October 31, 1961, when his body was removed from the Mausoleum and buried next to the Kremlin walls as part of the process of de-Stalinization.

    Interesting-all the conspiracey theories etc.

    On a lighter note, his first wife was a bit of a fitty :D
     

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