Dental record card found many years ago in a house in Arnhem, there was also one from Kussin who is now in the airborne museum in Oosterbeek
Thanks Philip, So as apparently a long-term student of Market garden, who now spends a fair amount of time digging it up, both in the archives and in a hole, what is it that really grabs/grabbed you about the operation? Purely being in the locality? Or something more specific? Apologies for my curiosity, Adam.
Here's some "Then and Now" pictures (Owens favourite type of piccies!!) from Arnhem from the German perspective. whats interesting is that not a lot has changed in 60 years. Defending Arnhem © 2006
apparently the 44th r.t.r ,4th armd bde,was attached to xxxcorps.the 64th medium regt r.a.was attached to xxx corps as well,during op m.g.the household cavalry regt were also corps troops as well.please correct me if i am wrong.yours,lee.
Thanks Philip, So as apparently a long-term student of Market garden, who now spends a fair amount of time digging it up, both in the archives and in a hole, what is it that really grabs/grabbed you about the operation? Purely being in the locality? Or something more specific? Apologies for my curiosity, Adam. No problem, no because I was born miles away near rotterdam, as a kid I was looking for an interesting thing what happened in Holland during the War, it was a choice between Arnhem and Overloon, it became Arnhem as this was easier to travel by train, it 28 years ago now.
In August there is a (Betuwe/Island) battlefield tour by former Airborne Museum director of the airborne museum Wybo Boersma,although I have been around in that area I will attend it, and wil post some photographs later on. 64th and 112 field regiment gave good fire support during operation Berlin
Interesting to hear Sapper As working on a database about Royal Artillery units, I notice a lot of mention of this in the War diaries, and also from the unit books I am buying, so if you want to talk/ let me know about it always interested in it
Gottgard - you are probably right that I am less than neutral with the American efforts - goes back a long way I guess - when I had the distinct impression that while the regular GI was a good sort - his leaders appeared to avoid battle at all costs and various debacles that they sent their GI's into reflected badly on their objectives - I usualy think of Kasserine - Gabes - Palermo - Salerno - Anzio and other examples not forgetting the horror of US Gen. Mark Clark's effort to destroy his own 36th Division at San Pietro - and his disobedience at Anzio - there's a lot to have a pop at ! What exactly did Bradley and Patton do when Ahrmen was being fought ?? any Ideas on that ?
Gottgard - you are probably right that I am less than neutral with the American efforts - goes back a long way I guess - when I had the distinct impression that while the regular GI was a good sort - his leaders appeared to avoid battle at all costs and various debacles that they sent their GI's into reflected badly on their objectives - I usualy think of Kasserine - Gabes - Palermo - Salerno - Anzio and other examples not forgetting the horror of US Gen. Mark Clark's effort to destroy his own 36th Division at San Pietro - and his disobedience at Anzio - there's a lot to have a pop at ! What exactly did Bradley and Patton do when Ahrmen was being fought ?? any Ideas on that ? Well Tom for every Kasserine you have a Crete, for every Palermo theres a Dunkirk, what about General Percival's effort at Singapore?? Why is it that you cant afford the US any respect? Their army isnt better than the British? The British werent better than the Yanks!! Give each other some credit will ya?
No problem, no because I was born miles away near rotterdam, as a kid I was looking for an interesting thing what happened in Holland during the War, it was a choice between Arnhem and Overloon, it became Arnhem as this was easier to travel by train, it 28 years ago now. Well its nice to see such an interest and the fact you live near to it probably helps!
i think the 2nd armd recce regt,welsh guards,and 1st motorised bttn welsh guards,would have no worse than the i.g battlegroup.lee.
without wanting to start any agro,the welsh guards w.g..battlegroup,fielded cromwells,faster,lighter and a good gun,some even having 95mm guns.yours,lee.
oh right, that ol chestnut. Tell you what, lets not go down that road shall we, if you'll pardon the pun!!
aye gott,willdo.tom,i think general mark clark should be givan some credit at salerno,he did go well forward to bolster morale and was i believe highly decorated.yours,lee.
i think the 2nd armd recce regt,welsh guards,and 1st motorised bttn welsh guards,would have no worse than the i.g battlegroup.lee. I would repeat you need to read up on the role and implementation of Recce troops to understand that this would not have happened. Recce troops do not form part of Battlegroups, they are Recce troops. The two roles are very different.
