Would anybody have any knowledge or information regarding Marjorie Stewart Butler of Whinnyloan, Graigend, Perthshire Wife of Colonel Richard Barry Butler, C.I.E. C.B.E. M.C. and daughter of Albert Evans Pullar of Durn, Perthshire. She has been confirmed by F.A.N.Y (PRVC), Records Officer as an Ensign of FANY, joined 9th August 1940 and held two BRCS First Aid Certificates; BRCS Home Nursing Certificate and BRCS Anti-Gas Certificate. British Red Cross Archives however are unable to confirm or offer any advice as to her membership of BRCS due to the fact the majority of the Joint War Organisation records were destroyed as a matter of policy after the war. Marjorie is also recorded by CWGC as serving with the American Ambulance Corps that suggests she was possibly a FANY/BRCS Ambulance driver Marjorie was seriously injured on 10th May 1941 when the Alexandra Hotel, Knightsbridge was bombed and died on 11th May 1941 in St. George’s Hospital, London. My main dilemma is, was Marjorie stationed in London and on duty at the Alexandra Hotel or was she on a visit to London from Scotland and a Hotel resident? I have also been unable to ascertain whether she is buried in London or Perthshire. Any snippet of information to help unravel the mystery will be greatly appreciated Tony
Would anybody have any knowledge or information regarding Marjorie Stewart Butler of Whinnyloan, Graigend, Perthshire Wife of Colonel Richard Barry Butler, C.I.E. C.B.E. M.C. and daughter of Albert Evans Pullar of Durn, Perthshire. She has been confirmed by F.A.N.Y (PRVC), Records Officer as an Ensign of FANY, joined 9th August 1940 and held two BRCS First Aid Certificates; BRCS Home Nursing Certificate and BRCS Anti-Gas Certificate. British Red Cross Archives however are unable to confirm or offer any advice as to her membership of BRCS due to the fact the majority of the Joint War Organisation records were destroyed as a matter of policy after the war. Marjorie is also recorded by CWGC as serving with the American Ambulance Corps that suggests she was possibly a FANY/BRCS Ambulance driver Marjorie was seriously injured on 10th May 1941 when the Alexandra Hotel, Knightsbridge was bombed and died on 11th May 1941 in St. George’s Hospital, London. My main dilemma is, was Marjorie stationed in London and on duty at the Alexandra Hotel or was she on a visit to London from Scotland and a Hotel resident? I have also been unable to ascertain whether she is buried in London or Perthshire. Any snippet of information to help unravel the mystery will be greatly appreciated Tony Tony, she appears to have spent a lot of time in India pre-war as she appears on a number of imergration records. but no clue to her profession as she is listed as house wife P
Her husband appears in the gazette on a number of occasions, Colonel Richard Barry Butler, C.I.E., C.B.E., M.C., of Garth Marr, Castle Carrock, Carlisle. http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/39700/pages/6137/page.pdf 22nd Aug. 1939. Col. Richard Barry BUTLER, C.I.E., C.B.E., M.C. (LA., Ret.). http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/34694/pages/6505/page.pdf To He Commanders of the Civil Division of the said Most Excellent Order:— Lieutenant-Colonel Richard Barry Butler, O.B.E. M.C, lately Military Secretary to the Governor of Bengal. http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/33611/supplements/3484/page.pdf
From the Times. There are also a few memoriam notices, including one that includes the loss of her son, Flying Officer Leonard Butler RAF, killed in action Mar 21st 1944 CWGC - Casualty Details Additional Information: Son of Colonel Richard Barry Butler, C.I.E., C.B.E., M.C., and Offr. Ensign Marjory Stewart Butler, American Amb. Corps (Great Britain), formerly F.A.N.Y. (died on active service 11th May, 1941), of Castle Carrock, Cumberland.
Have searched Find A Grave and it has Marjorie listed has a civillian war dead at Westminster Greater London. Sorry if this is all wrong. Marjorie Stewart Butler ( - 1941) - Find A Grave Memorial Michael.
Have searched Find A Grave and it has Marjorie listed has a civillian war dead at Westminster Greater London. Sorry if this is all wrong. Marjorie Stewart Butler ( - 1941) - Find A Grave Memorial Michael. I do not get the impression this listing is an actual indication of where Mrs butler is buried, It looks to me like the entry they list is a straightforward copy from the CWGC website. In the case of a civilian the CWGC gives the 'reporting local authority' where the civilian died - in this case Westminster. The burial place is not necessarily in the same local authority. As you are aware, Michael, I would not give any credence or promotion to that website at all. They copied some of my photographs and text from elsewhere, then re-posted them on their website without permission. To make matters worse in some instances they did not match up the photograph and the text correctly. Their site administrators were contacted and asked to remove the ones in question. When I looked at one or two other photographs on their website I reckon there are several others that are incorrect / misleading. One could envisage the situation where relatives living a long way from the burial location may actually believe the actual grave is being represented. It appears relatives can pay for 'virtual flowers with a note' via this website. In the case of Mrs Stewart's individual entry on the website you refer to, it does not currently attribute the original information is obtained from the CWGC website. If you click on the 'Burial' link given on that website it does eventually mention the CWGC. You have had to make an effort to get to that stage.
Hello Tony. Not much help, however I have come a cross a few Civilian casualties from Westminster Authority buried in a number of Cemeteries across London ,as you suggest she could have been taken back to her home town. If a forum member can pin point the exact burial via any local records that would be good. BUTLER, MARJORIE STEWART Rank: Civilian Date of Death: 11/05/1941 Age: 41 Regiment/Service: Civilian War Dead Reporting Authority WESTMINSTER CITY Additional Information: Ensign, American Ambulance Corps; of Whinnyloan, Craigend, Perthshire. Daughter of Albert Evans Pullar, of Durn, Perthshire; wife of Col. Richard Barry Butler, C.I.E., C.B.E., M.C. Injured 10 May 1941, at Alexandra Hotel, Knightsbridge; died at St. George's Hospital.
Hello Tony. Not much help, however I have come a cross a few Civilian casualties from Westminster Authority buried in a number of Cemeteries across London ,as you suggest she could have been taken back to her home town. If a forum member can pin point the exact burial via any local records that would be good.. As Col. Butler appears to be linked to Castle Carrock near Carlise I would have thought there may at least have been an obituary and possibly the funeral arrangements for Mrs Butler in the Cumbrian local newspapers at the time of her death in 1941. The 'Cumberland News' would be the most likely. Yet, I thought Mrs Butler may have been mentioned on the WW2 War memorial for Castle Carrock, or that she may have been buried there. However, the parish war memorial only seems to commemorate two WW2 service casualties (James Heterington and Donald Armstrong) with no mention at all of Mrs Butler! Possibly Mrs Butler was taken back to what seems to be her original home area of Perthshire for burial? Sorry not to be of more help.
englandphil Your info appears to suggest that she was no longer a member of FANY but employed at the Headquarters of American Amb. Corps also 'Funeral private' could indicate a hometown burial ??? Thanks to all for your interest but it appears that she is not going to be an easy subject to research. Trying to research the American Ambulance Corps or British-American Ambulance Corps, as it appears to have been known before the Amercian joined the war, is also difficult. Thanks again. Tony
Tony, might be worth trying the Perthshire forum on Roots chat as someone might have access to burial records. Perthshire Family History Local History
Tony, might be worth trying the Perthshire forum on Roots chat as someone might have access to burial records. Perthshire Family History Local History Thanks for reminding me. I registered there ages ago so I have just posted my original message on their Perthshire forum, so see what happens. Tony
Well,having had excellent support from members of Roots Chat I know know that Marjory Butler is buried in Wellshill Cemetery, Perth, Perthshire not far from her own Pullar family grave. There is also a death notice in The Times, 15th May 1941 stating that she served with Headquarters Staff, American Ambulance, Great Britain but beyond that I can find out nothing else relevant about the British-American Ambulance Coprs. Regarding her husband Col. Richard Butler. Sometime towards the end of the war he appears to have settled in Cumberland where he was appointed High Sheriff in 1954 and, date unknown, married a widow, Madge Mein-Austin. He died in 1957 at Morningside, Edinburgh and is buried at Warwich Bridge, Cumberland. There was also a son Flying Officer Leonard Maurice Stewart Butler, 241 Sqdn. RAF,VR. who died on 21st March 1944 during operations in Italy. Tony
