Major John Rogers 12th Battalion Devonshire Regiment 71109

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  1. LinDevon

    LinDevon Member

    He was involved in air landing on 24th March 1945. He was wounded and I believe he was evacuated. He was awarded the Military Cross for his actions at that time.
    I would like to find out what happened to him after that, whether he returned to fight and when and where he died.
     
  2. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

    for your interest

    A Coy commanded by Maj John Rogers were the only Coy from the 12th Devons to land by glider on D-Day and were attached to Parker Force commanded by Col.R.G.Parker deputy brigade commander. As all the rest under the command of Lt.Col R.G.Stevens came by sea (apparently there were not enough gliders to accomodate the rest of the Battalion) and landed near Quiesteram and marched inland to rejoin A Coy.
    71109 T/Major Rogers J. Wounded in action - evacuated OC A - Coy
    12th Battalion Devonshire Regiment


    Major John Rogers

    Service records would help you
     
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  3. David Woods

    David Woods Active Member

    Major John Rogers, 12th Battalion Devonshire Regiment, 71109

    Born 28th August, 1916.

    2nd Lt. 28th January, 1937.

    Lt. 28th January, 1940.

    O.C. 'A' Coy: T/Capt. John Rogers (71109), 9th February, 1942.

    O.C. 'A' Coy: T/Maj. John Rogers (71109), D-Day 6th June, 1944.

    T/Maj. John Rogers was wounded on 10th August, 1944 and did not participate in the Ardennes/Holland campaign.

    22nd December, 1944. T/Maj. John Rogers (71109), appointed A/Brig. 6th Airlanding Bde. residues.

    Devon R. Lt. (War Subs. Capt.) John Rogers (71109) to be Capt., 28th Jan. 1945

    T/Maj. John Rogers did not returned to Germany after being wounded on 24th March, 1945. Evacuated the following day.

    War Office, 12th July, 1945.
    The Military Cross
    Major (temporary) John Rogers (71109), The Devonshire Regiment (Dolton, Devon).

    War Diary
    13th July, 1945.

    Jungle Cadre left Battalion. Proceeded to transit area, under 2i/c T/Maj. John Rogers, M.C.
    War Diary doesn't state if he departed the U.K., or his destination.

    Battalion disbanded 5th November, 1945.

    Devon R. Capt. (War Subs. Maj.) John Rogers, M.C. (71109), to be Maj., 28th Jan. 1950.

    He remained with the battalion until at least the above date and probably beyond, as there is no record in The London Gazette of a transfer to another regiment.

    Only one battalion active during 1950's. Appointments greatly reduced.

    Do not know where or when he died. Can't find him in Ancestry.
     

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  4. travers1940

    travers1940 Well-Known Member

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  5. Cee

    Cee Senior Member Patron

    Likes to all ...:)

    Major Rogers must have returned to his unit at some point as he is present with other Officers in a post Investiture photo dated April 28, 1945. "The ceremony took place in a barn nr. the banks of the River Elbe."

    Official photo at the IWM:

    FIELD MARSHAL MONTGOMERY DECORATES AIRBORNE TROOPS

    Officers named on the Pegasus Archive:

    General

    Maj John Rogers, MC  & Lt-Col Paul Gleadell DSO.JPG

    Regards ....

    Added - To be on safe side another photo of Major Rogers is needed to confirm that is actually him in above Officers Group ... ?
     
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  6. LinDevon

    LinDevon Member

    Thank you very much.
     
  7. LinDevon

    LinDevon Member

    Thank you very much. Interesting he's from Dolton, I've never heard of it so something else to look up.
     
  8. LinDevon

    LinDevon Member

    This is very interesting. At least I know he didn't die during the Normandy invasion. But now I must go on the search for another photo.
     
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  10. LinDevon

    LinDevon Member

    Thank you David for so much information.
     
  11. Alex1975uk

    Alex1975uk Well-Known Member

    Cee,
    I know you love a good now/then photo and seeing exact locations...
    I did some work on this location before. It’s in Melbeck just South of Luneburg.
    Search for AZ Cars, UelzenerStr, Melbeck and its that building.
    I’m trying to post a picture....
     
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  12. Alex1975uk

    Alex1975uk Well-Known Member

    I have that photo with all the names on and that is Mr Rogers. He’s standing next to Bertie Mills of 7 Para.
     
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  13. David Woods

    David Woods Active Member

    Cee
    You are perfectly correct. My mistake. It was 3.30am Eastern Australia time. I was so focused on cropping the image of Maj. John Rogers from the photo you refer to and finishing the post, that I didn't read the caption.

    However, there is no written evidence in the War Diary or the Historical Diary of Events to suggest that Maj. John Rogers played an active role with the 12th Devons in Germany after being evacuated on the 25th March, 1945.

    Unsurprisingly, he is not on the Field Return Of Officers for 7th April, 1945.

    He is not shown commanding a company on 18/19th April, 1945.
    7 Majors, Warren, Carey, Bannister, Nation, Palmer, Strawbridge and Snell at this time.

    He is not one of the 3 officers, Lt's. Salt, Sanders and Storey, joining the battalion on 28th April, 1945. Although he may have travelled with them to collect his medal.

    Best way to resolve the issue is for somebody to provide a Field Return Of Officers for late April or early May, 1945.
     
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    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

  15. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    I too have been searching for a birth or death record for John Rogers born 28 Aug 1916, dont know where he was born or where he died

    Is it possible to verify that was his actual birth date - I note there is a Frederick Rogers born in Devon on that date, but just because he was in the Regiment doesnt obviously mean he was born in the County - is it possible that was his baptismal date or his registration date - trying to find some answers as to why he isnt seemingly showing up on records

    For example
    John Rogers in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1916-2007
    Name: John Rogers
    Registration Date: Jul 1916
    [Aug 1916]
    [Sep 1916]
    Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
    Registration District: Bideford
    Inferred County: Devon
    Mother's Maiden Name: Fraser
    Volume Number: 5b
    Page Number: 734


    Name: John Rogers
    Death Age: 40
    Birth Date: abt 1917
    Registration Date: Jan 1957
    [Feb 1957]
    [Mar 1957]
    Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
    Registration District: Honiton
    Inferred County: Devon
    Volume: 7a
    Page: 471

    But it could also be
    Births Sep 1916
    Rogers John Hill Dudley 6b 1828
    Rogers John Fraser Bideford 5b 734 (Noted above)
    Rogers John Tyers Bucklow 8a 310


    It seems we need something extra, Parents name(s), wife name, something to narrow him down

    TD
     
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  17. David Woods

    David Woods Active Member

    LinDevon

    The following document can be purchased from The Sandhurst Collection for £5.99 if you want a clearer copy.

    Personal Information Sheets
    John Rogers - RMC Form 18A Personal Detail Sheets Aug 1935 Intake

    Cadet John Rogers (71109) Personal Information Sheet.jpg

    The details I can read are:-

    Enters Royal Military College, Sandhurst 30th August, 1935

    Date of Birth 24th August, 1916

    Schools
    Warden House, Upper Deal, Kent
    Sherborne Public School

    Permanent address of Parent or Guardian
    William Henry Rogers
    Orleigh Court,
    Bideford, Devon

    Based upon the information above, I searched Ancestry.com and found a number of documents for you to look at.
    You'll have to decide for yourself if they are your John Rogers.

    Some basic facts:-
    Born 24th August, 1916
    Married Oct/Nov/Dec. 1939
    Died 26th January, 1957, Aged 40.
    Probate Pennyhayes Farm, Shute near Axminster, Devon
     

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