Major Cains VC action

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  1. Mick D

    Mick D New Member

    Hello all,
    I'm new to this forum and have enjoyed reading it, so here is my first ever post-

    Can anyone tell me the location(s) in Arnhem where Major Cain earned his VC ? I'm off over there next week and would love to visit the exact point.

    Mick
     
  2. Lotus7

    Lotus7 Well-Known Member

    Hi and welcome to the forum Mick, good luck with your research, by the way do you have his army records?
    Wish you well with your trip. The guys here are full of help and knowledge so hang in there some one will be along soon.
     
  3. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    Was he the father in law of Jeremy Clarkson??

    From Ancestry -

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    TD
     
  4. Wessex_Warrior

    Wessex_Warrior Junior Member

    Hello Mick,

    Major Cain was awarded the VC for a number of successful engagements against enemy tanks between the 20th and 25th September. He immobilised a StuG on the afternoon of the 21st which was moving South on the Ploegseweg from a position in the grounds of the van Hofwegen laundry which stood at the southern end of the Ploegseweg. This is in the Oosterbeek perimeter.

    Kind regards,

    Will.
     
  5. Mick D

    Mick D New Member

    Thanks for the information, was there for the 70th anniversary and can't wait to return. I will be visiting the sites of a few of the VC actions when I'm there.

    Mick
     
  6. Harry Ree

    Harry Ree Very Senior Member

    Apparently when Cain revisited the location in 1946,the disabled German tank was still in the same position as it was when he crippled it in 1944.
     
  7. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    There was a documentary made by Jeremy Clarkson (said to have been his best) about his father-in-law Major Cain - here on youtube

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tpg6h16k8eU

    it may provide you with some clues as to exactly where he was when he won his VC

    TD
     
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  8. ritsonvaljos

    ritsonvaljos Senior Member

    Major Robert Cain V.C. was awarded his V.C. for gallantry during Operation Market Garden (i.e. "Arnhem"). Up to date he is the only V.C. recipient from the Isle of Man (although many of the immediate family of WW1 V.C. recipient Abraham ACton V.C. lived in the Isle of Man during and after WW1).

    In September 2014 (70th anniversary of "Market Garden") a bridge at Castletown, I.O.M. was renamed after Major Cain (now 'The Cain Bridge'). It seems an appropriate 'nod' towards the aims of 'Market Garden' and especially to capture the Arnhem bridge.

    This is a link to the BBC news report about the Cain Bridge 'unveiling':
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/29109714
     
  9. Mick D

    Mick D New Member

    That was a very good documentary, thanks for posting it.
     
  10. The Cooler King

    The Cooler King Elite Member

    One of my very favorite documentaries........................... :D
     
  11. Mick D

    Mick D New Member

    Many thanks for the information, I did manage to visit the site when I was over !
     
  12. Ramiles

    Ramiles Researching 9th Lancers, 24th L and SRY

    Browsing some of the Tiger KO'd stories, and thinking re. http://ww2talk.com/forums/topic/26626-every-tank-became-a-tiger/

    I noticed that wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Henry_Cain

    Has a small section after... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Henry_Cain#Victoria_Cross

    To quote (at the mo.) "There are some errors in Cain's citation. The action described as occurring on the 20th actually took place on the 21st[28] (indeed this is the day on which Lieutenant Meikle—his spotter in the building above—was killed),[39] and the Tiger tank he engaged was in fact a StuG III.[28]"

    Margry, p616


    But.... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturmgesch%C3%BCtz_III

    [​IMG]

    Has... "Overall, the Sturmgeschütz series assault guns proved very successful and served on all fronts as assault guns and tank destroyers. Although Tigers and Panthers have earned a greater notoriety, assault guns collectively destroyed more tanks" - "Because of their low silhouette, StuG IIIs were easy to camouflage and a difficult target. As of April 10, 1945, there were 1,053 StuG IIIs and 277 StuH 42s in service."

    Assuming wiki is "correct" - never too wise I know ;) Had the citation said "StuG III" - would it have "made" as much sense to the general/army reader to make this clear? - how widely was the term StuG III used by the British/allies? And maybe "Tiger" is just a WW2 way of saying a "XXXXXXX" German tank! :)
     
  13. 509thPIB

    509thPIB Well-Known Member

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