M1 Carbine

Discussion in 'Weapons, Technology & Equipment' started by chipm, Feb 12, 2019 at 12:20 PM.

  1. chipm

    chipm Member

    I always thought the Carbine was a "fine" weapon with unrealized potential.
    It seems like The Allies already had the platform to create their own MP-44.
    I am not a weapons designer or a ballistics expert. But i would guess it would not have taken much more case capacity to transform The carbine into a more powerful rifle.?
    I was thinking a mere, additional, 1/4" - 1/2" of case length would have given the same bullet a new meaning.
    The Carbine, with more powder and full auto capability Would/Could have been an awesome rifle.
  2. Dave55

    Dave55 Very Senior Member

    The .30 Carbine round wasn't too far behind the MP-44 round. The case was 7.62mm x 33mm compared to 7.92 x 33mm Kurz but the Kurz was a bottleneck with significantly greater volume than the carbine round. It also used a pointed bullet vs the round nose carbine.

    Winchester did design a new .224 bottleneck cartridge for the carbine in the mid fifties that goes right along with what you are talking about.

    The Contender: Winchester’s .224 Light Rifle

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  3. chipm

    chipm Member

    Oh Wow.....OK.
    You mean there is somebody smarter than me.? :)
    Anyway.....Thank You.
    I had never heard about that...very interesting
  4. davidbfpo

    davidbfpo Well-Known Member

    Spotted French police officers on recent counter-terrorism patrol armed with M1 carbines; along with H&K MP5, not the French Army's standard rifle.
    The RUC used the M1 carbine for a time during 'The Troubles', my recollection is that they would have preferred the Ruger Mini-14, but for political reasons the USA stopped their sale.
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  5. robins2

    robins2 Active Member

    they also had the Mark 2 which could be switched to full auto along with a 30 round magazine
  6. Dave55

    Dave55 Very Senior Member

    I love the opening of Heartbreak Ridge.

    Here the full auto portion:

    Complete opening:


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