Luftwaffe - Kampfgeschwader 100 – 1 Staffel pathfinder - crew details

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  1. Bala

    Bala Member

    On 8th May 1942 a Heinkel 111 from Kampfgeschwader 100 – 1 Staffel pathfinder was shot down. The plane hit a power line near Patcham, Sussex. It broke up and all the crew were killed. They are buried in Brighton City Cemetery.

    Can anyone tell me their ranks and where I might find a photograph of them
    The Crew:

    Uff. Wilhelm Markl. Lt R Oepen, Uff. J. Luksch, Uff F Kuttner and Uff Driessen.

    The bomber was an He111H-6 serial 6N+HR (5791) which crashed at 2.55am

    Any information on the plane appreciated

    Thank you

    Bala
     
  2. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

    The crash is mentioned in Blitz over Sussex by Burgess & Saunders from Middleton Press. It was published in 1994 and states that parts of the aircraft are/were still being discovered in the fields and hedgerows where the bomber crashed even then. The book is part of a 3 volume set and not too expensive that briefly details all the known wartime crashes in the county as well as some of the V weapon incidents. Lots of photographs, a couple from this crash, the one I mentioned in the other book of the tailplane guarded by a bobby and observed by a few onlookers and another of a memorial card printed for the family of one of the crew, Uff. Wilhelm Markl. The rest of the crew were Lt R Oepen, Uff. J. Luksch, Uff F Kuttner and Uff Driessen. The bomber was an He111H-6 serial 6N+HR which crashed at 2.55am.

    For interest Andy Saunders is doing a talk on oddities of the Battle of Britain this month with the Lewes Military History Soc. that I hope to go along to. I assume it will cover Sussex in a bit more detail.

    The Beaufighter that claimed the Heinkel was from 219 Sqn piloted by Sqn ldr John Groves with Fg Off Horace Walter William Berridge the air gunner. They ere veterans of the Battle of Britain when flying Blenheim IF’s and by all accounts a deadly night fighting ace team who claimed over a dozen enemy aircraft. Both survived the war and were decorated.

    I am sure Ian might have a bit more detail of the crash if he owns the relevant volume of the Luftwaffe Crash Archive series which I do not (yet). The authors of this series might also have some more information if you try them directly (combat reports, constabulary reports etc). Simon Parry has been of invaluable assistance to me regarding my own research of aircraft downed in my parish and might be able to shed some more light on the crash although as it did not happen during The Battle of Britain I don’t know whether he has as much information to hand.

    Luftwaffe Crash Sites
     
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  3. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

  4. Bala

    Bala Member

    Luftwaffe Crash Sites[/QUOTE]

    Many thanks.

    I don't know Ian please can you tell me his contact details?

    Best wishes
     
  5. hucks216

    hucks216 Member

    For the ranks they are Uff = Unteroffizier and the Lt = Leutnant.
    Oepen was the pilot
    Luksch was the Observer
    Markl & Driessen were Air Gunners
    Kuttner was the Radio Operator.

    It has 1 & a half pages in Vol 9 of Luftwaffe Crash Archive (pages 1074 & 1075) including 3 photos.
     
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  6. Bala

    Bala Member

    Many thanks that answers my question about ranks. My father was an officer and a photo appeared in the "Star" a now defunk local paper which shows him inspecting the wreckage. I have been trying to get a better quality photo but not found one yet.
    I shall try to look at the photos in the Luftwaffe Crash Archives
    Thanks again
     

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  7. Bala

    Bala Member

    Luftwaffe - Kampfgeschwader 100 – 1 Staffel pathfinder
    What were the markings for this plane?
    7/KG100 Heinkel He 111H-6 (4791)

     
  8. papiermache

    papiermache Well-Known Member

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  9. Bala

    Bala Member

    Thank you for the update
     
  10. hucks216

    hucks216 Member

    The British archives also contain the AI1(g) reports on the technical aspects of the crashed aircraft and where applicable the AI(k) interrogation reports of all captured airmen.

    The captured Luftwaffe Quartermaster General's Returns of Aircraft Losses (Oberbefehlshaber der Luftwaffe Gen. QU/6 Abteilung/40.g. Kdos IC) are held on microfilm by the Imperial War Museum, London.

    For example, this particular aircraft was fitted with a new type of balloon cutter to the leading edge of the wing and one bomb bay cell was removed and replaced with a petrol tank.
     
  11. ltdan

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  12. ltdan

    ltdan Nietenzähler

    he111 kg100.jpg
    The picture is a „best guess“ as for the Luftwaffe A/C appearances the only hard and fast rule is there is no hard and fast rule

    Clearly visible the X-Gerät antennaea, giving these peculiar Heinkels the nickname Dreimaster (threemaster)
    By means of the extremely scarce picturial evidence I guess the A/C is overall painted in RLM 74
    Swastika was clearly overpainted with black distemper, same is to assume for Balkenkreuz and undersurface as this was common practice in 1942 proved by numerous contemporary photographs
    Equipped with „X-Gerät“ makes these A/C already a speciality, the mentioned mounting of a „Kuto-Nase“ on a H-6 makes it a special speciality
    P2 shows a sketch of the Kuto mounted on the H-10 version as shown in aircraft number 184, signal squadron publications
    P2.jpg He111 EK-XY.jpg 2 He111 EK-XY.jpg
     
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  13. Bala

    Bala Member

    Itdan - many thanks very helpful.

    One last question - What does "Erprobungskommando" mean?
     
  14. ltdan

    ltdan Nietenzähler

    Erprobung – testing
    Kommando – unit entrusted with certain tasks

    operational history:
    1.1.42 formed in Märkisch-Friedland from 2./Kampfgruppe 100 as dedicated Zielfindereinheit (Pathfinder)
    renamed Erprobungskommando (EKdo) XY and transferred to Chartes

    3.42 renamed EKdo 100 (first incorrectly identified as 7./KG 100 by British Intel)

    6.42 renamed EKdo 17

    9.42 redesignated 15./KG 6

    5.43 amalgated with I./KG 6

    5.45 disbanded Neumünster
     
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  15. Bala

    Bala Member

    Itdan
    Thanks again so useful. A newspaper clipping with a photograph showing my father who was an army officer examining wreckage of the tail section of a luftwaffe bomber, got me started looking for more information.

    I learned that a RAF night-fighter, a beaufighter from 219 Squadron shot it down on the night of 8th May 1942. It hit a power line and broke up and so sadly all the crew died.

    I now have photographs of the headstones of the 5 crew members who are buried in Brighton City Cemetery.

    What I wonder now is if there are photos of the crew members and a bit of information on the flight - the target and if there is a report on the bombing raid.

    I attach a photo of the 16 German graves in Brighton City Cemetery

    Kind regards
     

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  16. ltdan

    ltdan Nietenzähler

    Documents are extremely scarce and difficult to obtain. In a nutshell:
    70 bombers attacked Norwich unsuccessful (Baedeker raids). The EKdo guided bombers from KG 2/Eindhoven (Do 217) and (not entirely sure) Küstenfliegergruppe 106/Dinard (Ju 88)
     
  17. Bala

    Bala Member

    Looking for a raid by KG100 Heinkel He 111H-6 (4791) probably out of Chartres.
     
  18. ltdan

    ltdan Nietenzähler

    The EKdo 100 Heinkels started from Chartres and were the pathfinders for the Norwich raid
    They had a specific flight path caused by the X-system: German Navigation
    The other bombers made different approaches to Norwich
    NOR.jpg
     
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