Looking for data about the loss of Sgt. PURSLOW 1271807 of 69. Sqn RAF

Discussion in 'The War In The Air' started by kurtl, Jan 19, 2013.

  1. kurtl

    kurtl Junior Member

    Sgt. PURSLOW, Robert Tetterell - 1271807, 21 years old probably crashed on December 17th, 1943 somewhere at Austria (since his remains rests at Klagenfurt war cemetery). He was with the 69. Sqn of RAF. I would like to learn more about his fate. Thank you for your help! Regards - Kurtl
     
  2. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

    Hello I am sure a forum member will add more info

    PURSLOW, ROBERT TETTRELL

    Rank:
    Sergeant
    Service No:
    1271807
    Date of Death:
    17/12/1943
    Age:
    21
    Regiment/Service:
    Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve

    69 Sqdn.
    Grave Reference
    8. B. 3.
    Cemetery
    KLAGENFURT WAR CEMETERY
    Additional Information:
    Son of Henry and Jane Ethel Purslow, of Colchester, Essex.
     
  3. AlanW

    AlanW Senior Member

    Interestingly, 69sqdn Coastal Command, were based in Malta at the time of his death, so i'm just wondering how he was in the situation of being buried in Austria. Hopefully all will be revealed.
     
  4. fritzelblitz

    fritzelblitz Member

    Alan Storr reports Vol 5, page 183, the loss of Baltimore AG699 (or AG692) on 15 Jun 1942 with four souls (corrected several of the obligatory Storrish errors):

    RAF Sgt F W A Baum, Captain (Pilot)
    RAAF 404016 Flt Sgt Alick Greaves RAAF, (Observer)
    RCAF Sgt W E Fincham, (Wireless Air Gunner)
    RAF Sgt R Purslow, (Air Gunner)

    Next, there exists a claim for AG699 by Hptm. Franz 'Nawratil' Schieß of Stab/JG 53 at 15:15 on 15.6.1942:

    "Linosa Island / Baltimore (AG699) of 69 Sqn, RAF flown by Sgt FW Baun, 2 crew POW"

    F/Sgt Greaves is KiA, buried MEDJEZ-EL-BAB WAR CEMETERY, 17. A. 12. One other No.69 Sqdn crew was lost that day, Baltimore AG715, with four souls MiA on Malta Memorial.

    530379 F W Baum in camp 18A (Wolfsberg, Kärnten, Austria) with PoW.No.9179, and R/77413 W E Fincham in camp L6 with PoW.No. 39181 listed in the RAF PoW List.

    Have summarized the loss of Baltimore AG699 on lostaircraft.com.
     
  5. DaveB

    DaveB Very Senior Member

    "with obligatory Storrish error already corrected"

    I can't let this pass without comment.

    Alan Storr was a WW2 airman who devoted a great chunk of his life post-war to recording the fates of over 7000 RAAF personnel who didn't return from the war.

    Whereas there are errors in his work compared to information now freely available online and in the works of Chorley et al - at the time he relied mainly on the actual casualty & personnel files held at the National Archives of Australia (NAA) in Canberra.

    I'm not saying he didn't make mistakes in transcription himself, but from what I have seen many of the "errors" come from the original reports on the files.

    Messages were rushed, notes were scribbled and some reports were garbled in transmission. Many surnames and service numbers contain extra letters, or are missing digits. Aircraft numbers are incorrect.

    I have never met Alan Storr, but I applaud his efforts. His works (published freely and available free of charge) should be used as an initial reference, but as above, cross-checked with more recent publications / websites before being used as an authority by themselves.
     
  6. DaveB

    DaveB Very Senior Member

    The attached document is the initial notification of the loss of the aircraft, as an example it spells the name of the RCAF member as Finchan at least three times.

    Apparently it should be Fincham according to the POW info supplied in post # 4
     

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  7. DaveB

    DaveB Very Senior Member

    For the OP - I don't know what your interest is in Sgt. PURSLOW, but the document I have attached to my previous post contains his home address at the time.

    Probably of little value now but it might be useful if compiling a family tree or comparing to electoral rolls / census details etc.
     
  8. spidge

    spidge RAAF RESEARCHER

    I concur with Dave's comments on Alan Storr's long time efforts to have this information information on RAAF losses available free of charge.

    A little further information for Kurt in putting these loss details together.

    The crash/loss place:
    Greaves Crash Position.jpg
    Sgt Greaves RAAF burial place:
    View attachment 93106
    NAA Page:
    Greaves Loss Cable.jpg
    Sgt Greaves Headstone:
    Greaves_A [1280x768].jpg .jpg]

    Cheers

    Geoff
     
  9. kurtl

    kurtl Junior Member

    Gentlemen! Thanks alot for your helpful work! That clears up almost everything about Sgt. PURSLOW.
     
  10. spidge

    spidge RAAF RESEARCHER

    Gentlemen! Thanks alot for your helpful work! That clears up almost everything about Sgt. PURSLOW.

    Glad the forum could be of some help.
     
  11. nomblat

    nomblat Junior Member

    Thought I might add a bit to this thread. Kurt contacted me due to my interest in all things Stalag 18A (Prisoner of War).
    First, some facts:
    Sgt Baum was in Stalag 18A/Z in March 1944.
    18A/Z was the camp to which many POWs from Italy were transferred in late 1943. In the camp was a Lazaret where POWs received medical treatment.
    Sgt Fincham's POW number was 39181. A lot of POWs who came from Italy in 1943 to 18A were given numbers with the 39 prefix.
    Sgt Purslow died in December 1943 in 18A.
    Sgt Greaves is buried in Tunisia.
    Their aircraft was shot down whilst on sea patrol in May 1942.

    Now some speculation!
    They were shot down over the sea near Sicily or Italy.
    Baum, Fincham and Purslow were picked up by Axis forces and ended up in an Italian POW camp until late 1943. Greaves died in the crash and his body was washed up on the Tunisian coast.
    When the Italians ceased hostilities, the 3 RAF men were transferred to 18A/Z. At this point Purslow was seriously ill. Baum may have been ill.
    Finch was moved on to Stalag Luft L6.

    It makes some sort of sense.

    Cheers

    Ian Brown
     

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  12. Wobbler

    Wobbler Well-Known Member

    Seems they’ve identified this Baltimore wreck as AG699:

    Solved: Riddle of the RAF bomber found on seabed thousands of miles from home

    Riddle of RAF bomber on an Italian seabed is finally SOLVED | Daily Mail Online
     
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