Looking for BMBR. H. L. PARNELL Royal Field Artillery Relatives

Discussion in 'Prewar' started by Drew5233, Nov 26, 2008.

  1. Verrieres

    Verrieres no longer a member

    I have however read the WW2talk forum article and seen the 1901 census of which i am already awae of - don't understand where Verrieres has got Ivy from though?!


    Hi,
    Glad your getting closer ,however when you read a document you should always turn the page! I did`nt post it at the time because other leads and methods were being pursude .Hope this helps clarify things and not muddy the waters again but Ivy is there!
    Regards
    Verrieres
     

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  2. ken griffin

    ken griffin Senior Member

    Hi Matt & Andy,
    Have been tracking Horace Parnell, Herbert's brother b1893, married a Getrude F Kitsell, had a daughter, Sheila Verona Parnell who married a Norman Rowley in Burnley first quarter of 1955, had a Daughter, Josephine B Rowley born first quarter 1957, in Walsall, does this info match anything.

    Ken
     
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  3. ken griffin

    ken griffin Senior Member

    More info,
    Did May marry a George R A Jennings in Sep 1922? if not it's the wrong one.
    Ken.
     
  4. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot Patron 1940 Obsessive

    I have however read the WW2talk forum article and seen the 1901 census of which i am already awae of - don't understand where Verrieres has got Ivy from though?!


    Hi,
    Glad your getting closer ,however when you read a document you should always turn the page! I did`nt post it at the time because other leads and methods were being pursude .Hope this helps clarify things and not muddy the waters again but Ivy is there!
    Regards
    Verrieres

    I saved the first one you posted and did wonder at first where you got Ivy from and assumed with it being at the bottom of the page it was on another one.

    Cheers
    Mate
     
  5. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot Patron 1940 Obsessive

    Ken, I think the best way to marry up the info is see where they were born or by their date of birth.

    Is there any possibility you could cut and paste all that info onto here for me and others to see?

    I'd hate for it to go to a non relative by mistake.

    Cheers for your help Ken

    Andy
     
  6. ken griffin

    ken griffin Senior Member

    Andy,
    I'll see what I can do, have hospital appt this afternoon, to check my broken wrist, will have a go at your request later.
    Ken.
     
  7. ken griffin

    ken griffin Senior Member

    Ref;; Ivy Parnell,
    1st image: Ivy Jessie P Parnell born Camberwell 3rd Qtr 1900.
    2nd image: ditto death Lewisham 2nd Qtr 1909.

    The birth agree's with the census for 1901, there was not another Ivy Parnell born in Camberwell around that time.

    Ken.
    Still working on rest of family.
     

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  8. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot Patron 1940 Obsessive

    Ken you are a star !

    I got your email but haven't had time to look at it properly.

    Thanks for all your help :)
     
  9. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot Patron 1940 Obsessive

    Well it appears that this story has a bit of a happy ending which is rather nice at this time of year. Address requested and hopefully Doreen will receive it in time for Christmas.

    From Matthew

    Well, just got off the phone from my wife's nan and she confirms her mom lived in Catford. Also mentioned about Ivy (can't believe i didn't turn the page - however it was in the first few days of me starting the family tree when i was still learning so I am now going back over some of these end pages that i frst had to see what else i may have missed with the other 5500 names in the tree!! There may have been siblings as her mom mentioned that there were but none survived due to illness mainly.
    She recalls her mom talked about her uncle Herbert that had died in the war and how he was in a boat accident of some sort. Sadly no picture exists that she has.
    The ww2Talk forum says that it was Norman Rowley and Sheila Verona Parnell and they had a child - My nan-in-law (Doreen Pumphrey nee Jennings father being George Robert Alfred Jennings and mother May Henrietta Parnell sister of Herbert Parnell.) says that they had no children, sadly both are now deceased and Doreen cannot recall the first name of Mr Rowley because all the family were somewhat distant but despite that Doreen was asked to be the executor of the will but declined some time back.).
    Doreen would be happy to recive the medal on his behalf, I doubt there is anybody else that is closer than a niece currently? At least not that she knows of or I have found.
    I can supply her address in Wales if you wish, let me know.
    Best wishes

    Matt

    PS You may be interested to know that Herbert's Gt Gt Grandfather John Goldie had a poem written about him by his friend Robbie Burns, yes, that famous Scotsman! Read it here http://www.robertburns.org/works/67.shtml


    A big heart felt thanks for all of you who helped provide infomation to return this medal to its rightful owner.

    Cheers Andy
     
  10. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Andy,
    when you post it, send it SPECIAL DELIVERY.
    We want it to get there properly.
     
  11. ken griffin

    ken griffin Senior Member

    Andy,
    It would seem that Herbert Parnell had two siblings that survived him and married, see attachment.

    Ken.
     

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  12. ken griffin

    ken griffin Senior Member

    Hi Andy,
    It's in the post, hopefully you can get it to the family before christmas.

    Ken.
     
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  13. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot Patron 1940 Obsessive

    Many thanks Ken,

    Ken has kindly sent me a length of ribbon to send with the medal.

    Cheers
     
  14. Donnie

    Donnie Remembering HHWH

    Great result mate,

    Perhaps we should start a thread similar to the one on the Great War Forum dedicated to returning medals?...

    Donnie
     
  15. ken griffin

    ken griffin Senior Member

    Some more photo's, aircraft this time (not the usual tanks) can you ID them for me, as I have no idea, being an ex siggy bluejob, usually underground, except for a 4yr stint with TCW.

    Ken.
     

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  16. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot Patron 1940 Obsessive

    I finally got a copy of the newspaper clipping pictured below and a new picture of the medal now complete with ribbon thanks to Ken.

    Both will be in the post this week to the rightful owner hopefully in time for Christmas.

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  17. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot Patron 1940 Obsessive

    Today to my surprise I received a Christmas Card, A letter and a Cheque from Doreen- The lady I sent the medal too.

    I was quite moved by the letter and Doreen details some of what she new about Herbert. As a result of I thought I'd share some of the letter with you. I don't think she would mind me sharing some of the details with you.

    My Mother was the sister of Herbert. I can remember her saying that he was torpedoed and the ship had gone down in the Dardanelles and thought he might have been looking after the horses on board ship.

    Doreen goes on to tell me that her father, the Brother in Law of Herbert was also wounded in The Great War and lost a leg and several fingers from his injuries and suffered shell shock from fighting at The Somme.

    Doreen tells me that she has a personal connection with Herbets posting to Eygpt. In 1948 she joined the WAAF and was ment to be posted to Singapore but for some reason (fate perhaps) she was posted to a RAF base in the Canal Zone, Egypt.

    Doreens family moved away from Catford almost 80 years ago so it would appear the medal had been missing for some 50+ years before being dug up by my mother around 20 to 25 years ago.

    Doreen has sent me quite a substantial cheque for my troubles but if wasn't for all of your help I would never have found Doreen. Because of this I am going to donate the money to one of my favourite charities which is The Army Benevolent Fund.

    I would like to say on behalf of Doreen a big thankyou to you all for your help in returning this medal to where it belongs.

    Regards
    Andy
     
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  18. Paul Reed

    Paul Reed Ubique MOD

    Doreen has sent me quite a substantial cheque for my troubles but if wasn't for all of your help I would never have found Doreen. Because of this I am going to donate the money to one of my favourite charities which is The Army Benevolent Fund.

    I would like to say on behalf of Doreen a big thankyou to you all for your help in returning this medal to where it belongs.

    Regards
    Andy

    Andy - you are a top bloke. Not only have you got the medal back to the family, you've done this as well. I hope 2009 is a fantastic year for you mate, you certainly deserve it.
     
  19. ramacal

    ramacal 336/102 LAA Regiment (7 Lincolns), RA Patron

    Well said Paul and well done Drew on such a great result. All credit to you.

    Happy New Year - Robert.
     
  20. Kieron Hill

    Kieron Hill Senior Member

    Truly amazing story first time I have seen this thread a credit to your hard work Andy and a thumbs up to all your helpers...great story
     

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