Looking for BMBR. H. L. PARNELL Royal Field Artillery Relatives

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  1. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot Patron 1940 Obsessive

    Looking for his relatives so I can pass this on.
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    My Mum gave it to me this w/end. She dug it up in her allotement about 15 years ago and I came across it whilst looking for my Grandads pictures.

    I think it would be quite interesting to find out about him as well as give the medal to his NoK. I think his Service No. is 858 or 658 or 558.

    Cheers in advance for any help.
    Andy
     
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  2. Paul Reed

    Paul Reed Ubique MOD

    MIC attached.
     

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  3. Paul Reed

    Paul Reed Ubique MOD

    Sadly, he didn't survive:

    <table class="datatable" width="97%" align="center" border="0" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="1"><tbody><tr id="tr_name"><th valign="top" width="30%" align="right">Name:</th> <td id="td_name">PARNELL, HERBERT LESLIE</td> </tr> <tr id="tr_initials"> <th valign="top" width="30%" align="right"> Initials:</th> <td id="td_initials">H L</td> </tr> <tr id="tr_nationality"> <th valign="top" width="30%" align="right"> Nationality:</th> <td id="td_nationality">United Kingdom</td> </tr> <tr id="tr_rank"> <th valign="top" width="30%" align="right"> Rank:</th> <td id="td_rank">Bombardier</td> </tr> <tr id="tr_regiment"> <th valign="top" width="30%" align="right"> Regiment/Service:</th> <td id="td_regiment">Royal Field Artillery</td> </tr> <tr id="tr_unittext"> <th valign="top" width="30%" align="right"> Unit Text:</th> <td id="td_unittext">4th Lowland Bde.</td> </tr> <!-- <tr> <td vAlign="top" align="left" width="30%">Force:</td> <td id="td_force"></td> </tr>--> <tr id="tr_age"> <th valign="top" width="30%" align="right"> Age:</th> <td id="td_age">19</td> </tr> <tr id="tr_death"> <th valign="top" width="30%" align="right"> Date of Death:</th> <td id="td_death">23/10/1915</td> </tr> <tr id="tr_service"> <th valign="top" width="30%" align="right"> Service No:</th> <td id="td_service">656</td> </tr> <tr id="tr_information"> <th valign="top" width="30%" align="right"> Additional information:</th> <td id="td_information">Son of Horace David Parnell, of 165, Sangley Rd., Catford, London.</td> </tr> <tr id="tr_type"> <th valign="top" width="30%" align="right"> Casualty Type:</th> <td id="td_type">Commonwealth War Dead</td> </tr> <tr id="tr_cemetery"> <th valign="top" width="30%" align="right"> Memorial:</th> <td id="td_cemetery">MIKRA MEMORIAL</td></tr></tbody></table><table class="noprint" width="100%"><tbody><tr id="tr_buttons"><td colspan="2" align="center">
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  4. Verrieres

    Verrieres no longer a member

    Hi
    Heres his medal card as you can see he Drowned in 1915 theatre of war given as Egypt.
    Regards
    Verrieres
     

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  5. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot Patron 1940 Obsessive

    Cheers guys. His parents house is spookily close to where the medal was found.

    Any ideas where to go now for a NoK ?
     
  6. Paul Reed

    Paul Reed Ubique MOD

    Local newspapers? However, you may find the family has faded away.
     
  7. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot Patron 1940 Obsessive

    Will do, I'll try directory enquiries on that addy too.

    Times like this I wish I was still a copper :(

    Anymore tips or info greatly appreciated and I'll keep you posted.

    I think I'll give it to the Retunda at Woolwich if I get no joy finding a NoK

    I'll keep you posted :)
     
  8. Verrieres

    Verrieres no longer a member

    Hi,
    He had an elder Brother Horace,(3yrs older),sister May (2yrs Older) and a younger sister Ivy(3+yrs younger).So long ago the sisters will have married and changed their names .Tricky!
    Regards
    Verrieres
     

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  9. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot Patron 1940 Obsessive

    Ok guys I've contacted the South London Press and they (The reporter) think they will run a story on it.

    He has the link to the forum and this post so any help posted on here would be great :D

    Cheers
    Andy
     
  10. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot Patron 1940 Obsessive

    Quick bump.

    The South London Press rang me today and they are going to run a story in their paper regarding this.

    If anyone has any info on his unit can you post it on this thread as I think they may put a link in the news article.

    Cheers
    Andy
     
  11. Paul Reed

    Paul Reed Ubique MOD

    Good result Andy - can you scan and post the article here in due course?
     
  12. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot Patron 1940 Obsessive

    Definately. He's going to email me a link to the article in the paper and I've asked my sister in Downham to buy it :D

    Anyone know of any who, what, why's and when's of The Royal Field Artillery in 4th Lowland Bde upto 1915 when this chap died.

    Regards
    Andy
     
  13. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

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  14. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot Patron 1940 Obsessive

    This is where he is remembered :poppy:

    MIKRA MEMORIAL, GREECE.
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    Interesting he is remembered in Greece but died in Egypt
    Any thoughts?
     
  15. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Looks like he was on the HT "Marquette",
    I'm wondering if he was posted to another unit but his entry still reads for his old one.
    I reckonn he was 29th Div ammo column.
    i've come across this before where our local VC winner is listed as his old Bty rather than 51st Ammo Col, who he won award with.



    CWGC :: Cemetery Details


    MIKRA MEMORIAL, commemorating almost 500 nurses, officers and men of the Commonwealth forces who died when troop transports and hospital ships were lost in the Mediterranean, and who have no grave but the sea. They are commemorated here because others who went down in the same vessels were washed ashore and identified, and are now buried at Thessalonika. The ships were: HT "Marquette", torpedoed and sunk by 'U35' on 23 October 1915, 57.5 kilometres south from Salonika Bay, carrying the 29th Division Ammunition Column and the New Zealand Stationary Hospital. HT "Ivernia", torpedoed and sunk on 1 January 1917, 93 kilometres from Cape Matapan, carrying reinforcements for Egypt. HT "Arcadian" was torpedoed and sunk on 15 April 1917, 41.5 kilometres north east from the island of Milo (Melos), carrying reinforcements for Egypt. Hospital Ship "Britannic", of the White Star Line, sunk by mine on 21 November 1916 in the Zea Channel between Greece and the Cyclades, on her way from Naples to Mudos. Fleet Messenger "Princess Alberta", sunk by mine between Stavros and Mudros on 21 February 1917.
     
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  16. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot Patron 1940 Obsessive

    Cheers Owen

    I think I'm correct in saying he died in Egypt probably near the Suez and was in one of these batteries:

    4th Lowland (Howitzer) Brigade. Numbered CCLXII May 1916 and renumbered CCLXIII Sep 1916.
    1/4th City of Glasgow (Howitzer) Bty. 04 Aug 1914 - 28 May 1916. Became A (Howitzer) Bty.
    1/5th City of Glasgow (Howitzer) Bty. 04 Aug 1914 - 28 May 1916. Became B (Howitzer) Bty.
     
  17. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Drew,
    I've reedited my posts.
    See above.
    I think he with 29 Ammo Column.
    Look at date.
     
  18. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot Patron 1940 Obsessive

    No worries Owen,

    I've just spoke to a chap at The Royal Artillery Museum who told me the 4th Low Bde were a Territorial unit and it appears to be weird that someone from Catford would belong to a Territorial unit in Glasgow.

    The conclusion was to get his records from Kew. He suggested he may have been at Gallipoli and was being evacuated as a casualty at the time of his death if there were patients with nurses on the Marquette.

    Why is nothing simple in life :)

    Cheers
    Andy
     
  19. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot Patron 1940 Obsessive

    SS Marquette had set off from Alexandria, Egypt on a routine mission to Salonika, Greece on October 19th, 1915. She was escorted for 4 days by the French Destroyer, "Tirailleur". On board were 22 officers and 588 other ranks of the 29th Division Ammunition Column, Royal Field Artillery with it's vehicles and animals. Also on board were 8 officers, 9 NCO's and 77 other ranks of the New Zealand Medical Corps, and the equipment and stores of No.1 New Zealand Stationary Hospital, including thirty-six nurses. In addition, SS Marquette had a ship's crew of 95, making a total of 741 persons on board. Her cargo included ammunition, horses and mules.

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  20. Smudger Jnr

    Smudger Jnr Our Man in Berlin

    Andy,
    It sounds like you are making good progress.
    All the best.

    Tom
     

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