This appears to be a definitive list of those German POW Camps still open in Britain in late 1947. As it concerns a national issue, I cannot image it was not sent to all camps. It is taken from TNA FO 939/270 Conditions in prisoner of war camps: incidents and morale.
ETOUSA Documents showing US POW and Discipline Training Centers, Aug 1944.......I can check further in the documents and see if I can find a later document
Temujin, Somewhere l have posted a thread on US camps in Britain. I have a feeling that what was on this map was a plan and wasn’t what exactly happened. I think some of these locations for POWs did open and others were added. My comments will be reassessed when l have time to check. I also do know that German POWs were located at US camps elsewhere probably as ‘casual labourers’ . There were two deaths at a small camp in Shropshire. Fold3 carries info. somewhere about their wider use, as well as Italian POW labour. Italians had been used at Burtonwood in, l think January 1944.
Temujin. Here is the thread and an updated list, I think, of US camps, which confirms most of those on the UK map you posted, but adds more in Yorkshire. WW2talkthreads/us-controlled-pow-german-camps-in-britain.73913/ Haltwhistle. Apparently US troops posted there (its near Hadrian's Wall) called it 'death valley'. Most of the US controlled POW camps were fairly rapidly returned to the British even from before Christmas 1944 (Devizes).
Putting names to the numbers. I have gone through my date list for the camps and produced a list of names for the numbers in the 14 November 1947 Memorandum. I had just one anomaly – Scriven Hall, which I have as Camp 121 in 1947 and into 1948, but 121 is not in the list. For one number - 258 - I can not work out which of 2 possible sites it is. I have pasted the list direct below so that if anyone spots any errors – and I am sure there will be some – the list can be easily edited (I think). Camp Nos. Name No. in 1947 2 Toft Hall Camp, Cheshire 2 4 Scraptoft, Leicestershire 4 9 / 183 Quorn Camp, Leicestershire 9 11 / 198 Island Farm Camp, Glamorganshire 11 16 Gosford Camp, East Lothian 16 17 Lodge Moor Camp, Yorkshire 17 18 Featherstone Park, Northumberland 18 19 Happendon Camp, Lanarkshire 19 23 / 1004 / 1023 Sudbury Camp, Derbyshire 23 25 Lodge Farm Camp, Berkshire 25 27 Ledbury Camp, Herefordshire 27 28 Garendon Park, Leicestershire 28 29 Royston Heath Camp, Hertfordshire 29 30 Carpenters Road Camp, London 30 31 Ettington Park Camp, Warwickshire 31 32 Wormwood Scrubbs, London 32 36 Hartwell Dog Track, Buckinghamshire 36 38 Pool Park Camp, Denbighshire 38 39 Maxstoke Castle Camp, Warwickshire 39 40 Somerhill Camp, Kent 40 41 Ganger Camp, Hampshire 41 42 Exhibition Field Camp, Devon 42 43 Harcourt Hill Camp, Oxfordshire 43 44 Goathurst Camp, Somerset 44 45 / 180 Trumpington Camp, Cambridgeshire 45/180 46 Kingsfold Camp, Sussex 46 47 Motcombe Park Camp, Dorset 47 48 Greenfield Farm Camp, Radnorshire 48 50 Garswood Park, Lancashire 50 51 Allington, Lincolnshire 51 52 Nether Headon Camp, Lincolnshire 52 53 Sandbeds Camp, Yorkshire 53 54 Hampton Lovett, Worcestershire 54 55 Shalstone Camp, Buckinghamshire 55 56 Botesdale, Suffolk 56 57 Merrow Downs Camp, Surrey 57 58 Firs/Nether Heage, Derbyshire 58 59 Sawtry Camp, Huntingdonshire 59 60 Overdale Camp, Skipton, Yorkshire 60 62 The Moor Camp, Lanarkshire 62 3 / 63 Balhary Camp, Perthshire 63 64 / 242 Cowden Camp, Perthshire 242/64 65 Setley Plain, Hampshire 65 67 Sandyhillock Camp, Banffshire 67 69 Darras Hall, Northumbria 69 70 Henllan Bridge, Cardiganshire 70 71 Sheriff Hales Camp, Shropshire 71 72 Duck's Cross Camp, Bedfordshire 72 73 Storwood Camp, Yorkshire 73 75 Northhill Camp, Kincardineshire 75 76 Merry Thought Camp, Cumberland 76 77 Annsmuir Camp, Fife 77 78 High Garrett Camp, Essex 78 79 Moorby Camp, Lincolnshire 79 80 Horbling Camp, Lincolnshire 80 81 Pingley Farm Camp, Lincolnshire 81 82 Hempton Green Camp, Norfolk 82 84 Sheet Camp, Shropshire 84 85 Victoria Camp, Suffolk 85 86 Stanhope Camp, Kent 86 87 Byfield Camp, Northamptonshire 87 89 Easton Grey Camp, Wiltshire 89 90 Friday Bridge, Cambridgeshire 90 92 Bampton Road Camp, Devon 92 93 Harperley Camp, Durham 93 94 Gaulby Road, Leicestershire 94 95 Batford Camp, Hertfordshire 95 96 Wolseley Road Camp, Staffordshire 96 97 Birdingbury, Warwickshire 97 99 ShugboroughMH, Staffordshire 99 101 Glandulas Camp, Montgomeryshire 101 102 Llanddarog Camp, Carmarthenshire 102 104 Beela River Camp, Westmoreland 104 105 / b Wooler Camp, Northumberland 105 10 / 106 Stamford Camp, Lincolnshire 106 108 Thirkleby Camp, Yorkshire 108 109 Brahan Castle (Estate), Ross-shire 109 111 Deer Park Camp, Aberdeenshire 111 14 / 112 Doonfoot Camp, Ayrshire 112 113 Holm Park Camp, Wigtownshire 113 114 Eden Vale Camp, Westbury, Wiltshire 114 116 Mill Lane Camp, Essex 116 117 Walderslade Camp, Kent 117 118 Mardy Camp, Monmouthshire 118 119 Pabo Hall Camp, Caernarvonshire 119 120 Sunlaws Camp, Roxburghshire 120 121 / 211 / 905 Scriven Hall Camp, Yorkshire 121??? 122 / 274 Ministry of Works Camp, Middlesex 274/122 123 Dalmahoy Camp, Midlothian 123 124 / a Bedminster Camp, Gloucestershire 124 129 Ashford (Lodge) Camp, Essex 129 135 Stanbury House Camp, Berkshire 135 136a / 264 Welton House Camp, Yorkshire 136 137 Chaddlewood House Camp, Devon 137 139 Wolviston Hall, Durham 139 141 Beeson House, Huntingdonshire 141 145 Normanhurst Camp, East Sussex 145 151a Lawne Camp, Staffordshire 151 153 Fulney Park Camp, Lincolnshire 153 154 Ministry of Works Camp, Kent 154 156 The Heath Camp, Lincolnshire 156 22 / 157 Bourton Camp, Gloucestershire 157 160 Lydiard Military Hospital, Wiltshire 160 162 Naburn Military Hospital, Yorkshire 162 165 Watten Camp, Caithness 165 167 Shady Lane Camp, Leicestershire 167 168 Brookmill Camp, Lancashire 168 171 Bungay Base Camp, Suffolk 171 174 Norton Park Camp, Nottinghamshire 174 16 / 175 Flaxley Green Camp, Staffordshire 175 180 Radwinter North Camp, Essex 180 184 Llanmartin, Monmouthshire 184 185 Springhill Lodge, Gloucestershire 185 186 Fornham Park, Suffolk 186 180 / 189 Marbury Hall Camp, Cheshire 189 194 Council House Camp, Staffordshire 194 196 Arbury Hall, Warwickshire 196 230 / 618 Stuckenduff Camp, Dunbartonshire 230 231 Redgrave Park Hospital, Norfolk 231 232 Northwick Park, Gloucestershire 232 234 Talgarth Hospital, Breconshire 234 236 Ninewells Camp, Berwickshire 236 237 Coed Bel Camp, Kent 237 238 Brook House, Sussex 238 239 Shirley Church Road, Surrey 239 240 / 285 Hawkstone Park, Shropshire 240 195 / 241 Merevale Hall Camp, Warwickshire 241 244 / 245 Butcher Hill Camp, Yorkshire 245 246 Basildon House, Berkshire 246 178 / 247 Ure Bank Camp, Yorkshire 247 248 Norton Camp, Yorkshire 248 181 / 249 Carburton, Nottinghamshire 249 83 / 250 Eden Camp, Yorkshire 250 251 East Cams Camp, Hampshire 251 252 Abergwili Hospital, Carmarthenshire 252 253 Mousehold Heath Camp, Norfolk 253 256 Willingham House, Lincolnshire 256 258 RAF Camp, Seething, Norfolk 258 258 Ellough Airfield, Suffolk 258 259 Weekley Camp, Northamptonshire 259 260 Hardwick Heath Camp, Suffolk 260 262 RAF Camp, Langar, Nottinghamshire 262 263 Leckhampton Court, Gloucestershire 263 266 Hutted Camp, Langdon Hills, Essex 266 268 Norduck Farm, Buckinghamshire 268 270 Luton Airport Camp, Bedfordshire 270 273 / a Debach Airfield, Suffolk 273 276 Nissen (Nisson) Creek, Devon 276 277 Recreation Ground, Worcestershire 277 278 War Department Camp, Bedfordshire 278 279 Yaxley Militia Camp, Huntingdonshire 279 280 North Lynn Farm Camp, Norfolk 280 284 Abbey Road Camp, Glamorganshire 284 286 / 654 / 655 Purfleet Camp, Essex 286 292 Donna Nook Airfield, Lincolnshire 292 293 Carronbridge Camp, Dumfries 293 295 Cattistock Camp, Dorset 295 182 / 298 Barony Camp, Dumfries 298 20 / 300 Wilton Park, Buckinghamshire 300 412 Langdon Barracks, Kent 412
Malcolm 56. If your list is taken from Roger Thomas, English Heritage list or any newspaper article (that pinched them), then their listings are not always trustworthy. I do not blame Thomas, he was probably working on a budget of time and money. There are hundreds of records and lists spread across many a ministry in the TNA and he did not find them all and neither have I. You are probably aware of all this already. I am writing this for the benefit of new arrivals at the temple of sorting out camp existences and numbers. The camp number is not given to the place, it was given the 'management team' who administered the camp. If they moved en bloc, they took the number with them. The best analogy I can think of is an RAF squadron. It kept its number but not any airfield name. Camp 2 wandered all over the place and I am not sure yet whether we've got them all. You are right for 1947, but in 1944, Toft Hall was camp190 for a few weeks and not a lot of people know that. Thomas didn't. (Continue to eat your heart out Sir Michael). My pious hope is that there were no typos in War Office letters and the list I posted above is accurate! Edit. An error in the first post linking Comrie/Cultybraggan to Cowden.
Hello Osborne2 - I agree with you on Thomas. Even though there are many mistakes in his report, I think he did a very good job on the limited time/budget he had. He also created a good basis on which to build. It is very easy to make mistakes with the research, as I frequently find out , but bit by bit, a more accurate story and details are being produced. BUT, no I did not use his list. The info I have is based mainly on FO docs - in particular the 1947 Wilton Park list (FO1120/182) to carry forward from - e.g. the Cowden entry coming in at number 64. This number could have been Castle Rankin OR Cowden, but the FO file gave us: The other main source used was the FO939 file of re-education reports. E.g Willingham House, 256 was visited on 5-8 November 1947 and again on 14-16 January 1948. Which gives us a nice date sandwich for the 14 November Memorandum. Other sources also add to the list, e.g postal items. I think the list you published is very accurate, just 1 mis-match which I can't (yet) explain. I also think the list I have produced is pretty accurate, but this was a time when camps were closing down, shrinking, changing status (and so number changes), being reduced to sub-camps, etc, etc. Hopefully others will spot the errors I have made and then I can update the list.
What more can l say, but agreed. Now, I said l had not seen all the lists, and there you are pulling another rabbit from the bowler hat. One day when Covid free that is another l want to look at as well as ones in HO 215, ones l failed to photograph completely in 2015. l have posted elsewhere about the segregation reports which are good for new camps and hostels created during the 1945 expansion. I might add that l am not attempting to build a definitive list, l am just trying to add to the public information that might help others as l go through what l have. The lists l have photographed were to solve a problem but l failed to realise the problem l dealt with was not the one that needed solving. Ever been there? Bet you have. Here’s to the thrill of the chase, see you the other side of the hedge, falls permitting.