Libya / Unidentified Metal Boxes

Discussion in 'Weapons, Technology & Equipment' started by Kuno, Nov 17, 2008.

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  1. Rich Payne

    Rich Payne Rivet Counter Patron 1940 Obsessive

    Just as well Drew because I forgot ! Doh !
     
    Rich Payne, Dec 10, 2008
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  2. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    Shame on you :lol:
     
    Drew5233, Dec 10, 2008
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  3. spotter

    spotter Senior Member

    Ive just found a little bit more on theses containers.They are for 3.7in QF Complete rounds.See the attatched documents.sorry about the quality but hope this is still of use to you
     

    Attached Files:

    spotter, Dec 11, 2008
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  4. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    I believe this is a ww2 container for complete rounds of artillery ammunition.The attatched image shows a similar style container which is designated C.222
    I think you cracked it Spotter.
     
    von Poop, Dec 11, 2008
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  5. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    Just a couple of Q's :)

    1. What does QF stand for ?

    2. Do you think these were for a AT Gun or AA Gun ?

    Cheers
    Andy
     
    Drew5233, Dec 11, 2008
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  6. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    QF = 'Quick Fire', term first used for 1890's Artillery with rapid action breeches where only the barrel and some associated parts recoiled rather than the whole gun. 20 aimed shots per minute being achieved in the early days over a more usual 4 or 5.
     
    von Poop, Dec 11, 2008
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  7. spotter

    spotter Senior Member

    Hello i THINK in this case "QF" Quick Firing stands for QUICK FIRING FIXED indicating a complete assembled round e.g unlike the 25pdr which utilised a seperate cartridge and round.
    The images i provided came from some documents i have on Anti Aircraft ammunition.

    More info on the different designations of "QF" can be found at this link List of British ordnance terms - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
     
    spotter, Dec 11, 2008
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  8. Smudger Jnr

    Smudger Jnr Our Man in Berlin

    Well done spotter.

    That was a hard nut to crack.

    Regards

    Tom
     
    Smudger Jnr, Dec 11, 2008
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  9. spotter

    spotter Senior Member

    glad i could help
     
    spotter, Dec 11, 2008
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  10. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    Many thanks. :)
     
    Drew5233, Dec 11, 2008
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  11. Paul Reed

    Paul Reed Ubique

    It certainly looks like Spotter has got it. My own thought, depending on the length of them, was containers for range finders.

    Great thread!
     
    Paul Reed, Dec 11, 2008
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  12. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    Totally agree Paul,

    Come on Kuno...Start another :D
     
    Drew5233, Dec 11, 2008
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  13. Steve G

    Steve G Senior Member

    Come on Kuno...Start another :D


    Agreed completely, Drew! :D I don't know Jack about anything, but Kuno's posts are Always riveting. The mans dedication to his cause just sweeps one along. I just hope I can now live long enough to catch up on half of what he's prompted here. Then I'll buy his book and get a friend to hide my pc till I can swear I've sat still and relaxed enough to read it.

    Damnit; I have a Dog here who likes to surge off along the track and out of sight of me. I even find myself muttering; " What do ye think ye are? LRDG?! ". Bloody man's invading my very conciousness! :lol:

    Kuno? Kudos!
     
    Steve G, Dec 12, 2008
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  14. Kuno

    Kuno Very Senior Member

    Thanks a lot for clarification about that boxes! Since the LRDG has used at least the 3,7 Bofors AT gun, it might be that thesse boxes had belonged to them - although I never saw them on a wartime photo.

    I found once a case for ammo of a German 3,7cm AA gun. It was much shorter and contained 12 rounds. So I am now a little bit confused about the dimensions of that British box...
     
    Kuno, Dec 12, 2008
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  15. Smudger Jnr

    Smudger Jnr Our Man in Berlin

    I can only think that the rounds were stored end on end and side by side and packed between.
    With the clamps screwed down it would have been pretty secure. Unpacking in a hurry may have been a problem without the normal quick release clips.

    Who would have thought that so much information would be forthcoming from Kunos great find.

    This has been a wonderful thread to read and partake in.

    Regards to all.

    Tom
     
    Smudger Jnr, Dec 12, 2008
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  16. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    I found once a case for ammo of a German 3,7cm AA gun. It was much shorter and contained 12 rounds. So I am now a little bit confused about the dimensions of that British box...
    Is the confusion perhaps one of measurements?
    3.7 CM rounds would indeed be smaller then 3.7 inch ones.

    3.7 Inch = 9.398 CM
    3.7 CM = 1.45 Inches
     
    von Poop, Dec 12, 2008
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  17. Kuno

    Kuno Very Senior Member

    Inch ;-)
     
    Kuno, Dec 12, 2008
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  18. spotter

    spotter Senior Member

    1 inch = 2.54 cm
     
    spotter, Dec 12, 2008
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  19. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    Ahhhh....Nothing like adult men discussing how big an Inch is :lol:

    My girlfriend still doesn't believe my definition ;)
     
    Drew5233, Dec 12, 2008
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  20. Kuno

    Kuno Very Senior Member

    Remembers me to this discussion: "Do you know, why women are not good in estimating a distance?"...

    ...no?

    "Because men always tell them that THIS is 30cm!"
     
    Kuno, Dec 17, 2008
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