Libya / Unidentified Metal Boxes

I found this on Google a bit small but does appear to be a bit similiar

Its a SA-7 Grail hand held SAM missile (The one in the box the other one is a Anti Tank missile) The Boxed one is the Easts answer to Stinger and the other one is their answer to Milan.

 

Sorry Tom, I missed that.

I have some British 81mm mortar round cases and they are different from those. They tend to be designed to only hold two rounds and are fitted with a strap so troops can carry them.

RPG Rounds and a holder



The holder is authentic, I approve

 

Russian Mortar round cases



Consulted with my chief, he was at service few years ago, and he says its definitely not a russian-made cases, because mortar rounds carried in special plastic boxes. He says these, on the pic, is probably eastern europe-made, not russian.

 

Colleagues;

The several metal boxes in below pictures are just not clear to me. First I thought that they could be Italian "box mines". Particularily since they were found in an area where the LRDG was driving quite often (the Italians mined the tracks once they recogniced them...). However; they are definitely not of Italian origin.

Does anybody have a clue about?

Hehe, have to say that this ones doesn't look like russian-made because here everything is still carried in plastic or wooden (most of all) boxes.

 

Drew
Haha You're as bad as me ...Tom mentioned it before I did earlier
Its an age thing with me .:p

 

It is strange to think that a simple box could cause so much headscratching!

With the circular mouldeds in the case I thought at first that it could be carrying smoke cannister type grenades for identification purposes?

Just a thought.

Regards and good hunting (Intriguing thread).

Tom

 

Deadb_tch here's the tube the mortar rounds were being used in. Defo Iraqi and I would expect it to be orinally from Eastern Europe.


I think we need more pics Kuno

 

Colleagues; I appreciate all your efforts but I am sure that the remnants are dating back to WW2. Will check my harddisc - I thought that I saw then a date stamped on one of them; hope that I find the respective picture...

 

Deadb_tch here's the tube the mortar rounds were being used in. Defo Iraqi and I would expect it to be orinally from Eastern Europe.


I think we need more pics Kuno

Again consulting with my chief and our lil' team is considering this mortar isn't russian-design, our '76mm company support mortar' have little longer tube, again looks like some eastern europe-country remake/remix

 

1939!

 

Back to the drawing board then

Have you got some more pics you can post and how long were the boxes?

 

That's all about the pics. Lenght of the boxes (sorry, I did not take it...) was about 1,5 metres.

 

Cheers the later one looks like a different box to the first two you posted

 

I've spent probably more time looking at WW2 period number stampings and casting marks than is good for me. I'm pretty sure from the font that those numbers are from the British sphere of influence. The use of a letter 'C' often indicates Canadian manufacture but I have no idea in this case. The 'II' looks like a Mk 2 designation as well which is quite a British way of doing things.

Re-enactors collect cases and boxes quite a lot. - Kuno, would you mind me posting the image on one of their forums ?

 

@ Rich Payne; please post these photos wereever you may think it would be helpfull to identify the boxes!

 

The last picture posted clearly shows the two holes, which presumably fit over the two screwed studs to provide a secure clamping action for the lid.

What surprises me is the fact that normally quick release clamps or clips were the norm.
It must have bee something really special to merit such secure arrangements.

Rich, I wish you well on posting to another forum. This has turned out to be a real mystery.

Regards
Tom

 

Any joy Rich ?

This thread will not leave my head ....Grrrrrr !

 

I believe this is a ww2 container for complete rounds of artillery ammunition.The attatched image shows a similar style container which is designated C.222

 

Well done that man.....I'm happy with that