Libya / Unidentified Metal Boxes

Discussion in 'Weapons, Technology & Equipment' started by Kuno, Nov 17, 2008.

  1. Kuno

    Kuno Very Senior Member

    Colleagues;

    The several metal boxes in below pictures are just not clear to me. First I thought that they could be Italian "box mines". Particularily since they were found in an area where the LRDG was driving quite often (the Italians mined the tracks once they recogniced them...). However; they are definitely not of Italian origin.

    Does anybody have a clue about?
     

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  2. Ferahgo

    Ferahgo Senior Member

    i dont think they are boxes. I think they are those girder type things that the LRDG use to cross soft sand-on the side of the back section :)
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  3. Kuno

    Kuno Very Senior Member

    Boxes. These pieces do not resemble the sand-channels on the sides of the LRDG trucks.
     
  4. Ferahgo

    Ferahgo Senior Member

    oh yeah... hmmmmmm they look as though they have soft interiors, so maybe used for transporting things that need to be muffled, like contraband items. Or items that can't be jostled???
     
  5. Kuno

    Kuno Very Senior Member

    Thought for spare-barrels of an MG; but does not look reasonable either...
     
  6. Ferahgo

    Ferahgo Senior Member

    Nice hole in one on the left, possibly something long like an MG barrel, looks like it does have long grooves in it...
     
  7. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    I think machine gun barrels are normally transported in canvas bags
     
  8. Smudger Jnr

    Smudger Jnr Our Man in Berlin

    The box itself looks to have a really good seal as the top or bottom has a groove in which the other side fits very snuggly.

    There also appears to be two bolts for securing the two halves.

    Coupled with a soft padded and shaped interior, whatever it contained was meant to be transported in safety.

    Could it be some special ops type explosive devices container? I have no knowledge of ammunition/explosives containers and my thoughts are purely based on what I can see from the Photos.

    It certainly is intriguing!

    Regards

    Tom
     
  9. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    I've looked up Bangalore Torpedoes and these come in wooden crates.
     
  10. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    Is there any possibility that these may be more modern than WW2 ?

    The boxes look more modern that 1940's ie the use of metal and plastic rather than wood?

    Not wishing to start a international incident but:
    SAS - Weapons - FIM-92 Stinger

    They couldn't be could they ? :D
     
  11. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    I can't get a sense of scale Kuno, two-three feet long?

    First impressions are that Drew might have a point with more modern manufacture, though I can't make out any plastic or padding? (something about the ribbing and general 'form' seems modern, or even reminiscent of Soviet stuff).
     
  12. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    I don't know if this will help anyone.

    I saved and zoomed in on the pictures. The 2nd picture, the 3rd box left to right has a bolt in the middle of it with a thread at the top which would suggest the boxes are secured together with the other half having a hole for the fixed bolt to go through and wing nut or similiar to secure them together.
     
  13. Smudger Jnr

    Smudger Jnr Our Man in Berlin

    I don't know if this will help anyone.

    I saved and zoomed in on the pictures. The 2nd picture, the 3rd box left to right has a bolt in the middle of it with a thread at the top which would suggest the boxes are secured together with the other half having a hole for the fixed bolt to go through and wing nut or similiar to secure them together.


    Drew,

    I mentioned this previously on the thread as just pure observations from the photographs.
    Not being ex military I thought it may prompt a response.

    Regards

    Tom
     
  14. James S

    James S Very Senior Member

    Munition of some kind (?) , the boxes are constructed to be fire proof (?)..( Sealed edges, the items contained appear to be circular ).
    Mortar rounds was again a guess but again it does not look "right".
    A puzzle :)
     
  15. Bodston

    Bodston Little Willy

    Cases for modern RPG rounds was my first thought. I can't find any pictures to prove it though.
     
  16. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    Sorry Tom, I missed that.

    I have some British 81mm mortar round cases and they are different from those. They tend to be designed to only hold two rounds and are fitted with a strap so troops can carry them.

    Russian Mortar round cases
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    RPG Rounds and a holder
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    And a selection of other Russian Ammo boxes
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    I think its western and probably American. I like threads like this :)
     
  17. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Googled Stinger missile box & found this.

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  18. James S

    James S Very Senior Member

    On what looks / may be the "lid" of the boxes - two long metal screw threads , is thsi WW2 or circa 1950's - 60's ?
    Pressed metal containers are heavy and more expensive to produce than modern day man made materials which are both stronger and lighter and easier to transport .
     
  19. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    Thats a Barrett 50. cal Sniper rifle....I'm assuming the owner modified it to transport his 'Artillery' piece :D

    Owen I think that box holds the Launcher. I wondered if there was a box for the missle itself?
     
  20. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    On what looks / may be the "lid" of the boxes - two long metal screw threads , is thsi WW2 or circa 1950's - 60's ?
    Pressed metal containers are heavy and more expensive to produce than modern day man made materials which are both stronger and lighter and easier to transport .


    Haha You're as bad as me ...Tom mentioned it before I did earlier :lol:
     

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