Kings Regulations 1940

Discussion in 'Service Records' started by skimmod, Feb 19, 2012.

  1. skimmod

    skimmod Senior Member

    Hi All,
    Sorry if this has been requested before.

    Does anyone have an electronic copy of Kings Regulations 1940?

    I'm trying to decypher quite a few service outcomes and it would be ever so handy!

    thanks

    Iain
     
  2. Mike L

    Mike L Very Senior Member

    Iain,
    I don't think we have seen a copy of the full document here but Mark (BFBSM) posted this link on another thread:
    The National Archives Search Results

    Try using the forum search function for other possible links.
     
  3. AB64

    AB64 Senior Member

    I have a copy if you want some bits checked, you can post on here or PM me.

    Alistair
     
  4. skimmod

    skimmod Senior Member

    Thanks Chaps.
    Found a paper copy on Amazon for 9 quid last night and it's on it's way!

    I will attempt (once it arrives) to digitise it.
     
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  5. skimmod

    skimmod Senior Member

    here are the pages relating to the 390's.

    reasons for discharge.

    Quite a few of those wounded at Dunkirk find they are "Discharged under KR1940 Para 390 XVI"
     

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  6. Antr1962

    Antr1962 New Member

    Good afternoon,

    I have been looking through the topic and i have a question that I am hoping can be answered. My grandfather was discharged in May 1942 and on his records it has:

    King’s Regulations Paragraph 390 (xviii)(a) - His Service No Longer Required (SNLR) for the purpose for which he was enlisted AND A.C.I. S23/1942

    I understand there are various parts to xviii and i can't find anywhere what sub para (a) relates to. Nor can i find anything for ACI S23/1942. I think that may be an Army Council Instruction.

    if anyone can help then it would be greatly appreciated.

    Many thanks

    Anthony
     
  7. AB64

    AB64 Senior Member

    HI,
    Here is the KR entry, the section is entitled "for the benefit of the public service" - not sure about the ACI bit (although I agree its Army Council Instruction).

    Alistair
     

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  8. Antr1962

    Antr1962 New Member

    Alistair,

    many thanks for your prompt reply.

    That all makes sense now

    regards

    Anthony
     
  9. magna

    magna Member

    Hi all,

    Can anyone tell me what discharge code Para 383 (xvii) translates to? It related to KR 1940

    Thanks
     
  10. AB64

    AB64 Senior Member

    Hi,
    Paragraph 383 attached, but it doesn't have subsections - the other paragraphs it relates to also don't seem to have any xvii

    Alistair
     

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  11. magna

    magna Member

    Thanks Alistair,

    Is it possible that someone discharged in Jan 1940 may be subject to a previous version of the KR? Para 383 that appears in your copy doesn't seem to refer to a discharge reason.

    Regards

    Stephen
     
  12. magna

    magna Member

    I've found references to men discharged in July 1940 under the 1935 KR so I think that's where I need to be looking.
     
  13. magna

    magna Member

    It appears para 383 1935 is roughly equivalent to para 390 1940. Is there a xvii in para 390? Further research shows he may have been discharged to a commission.
     
  14. AB64

    AB64 Senior Member

    Here you go, from KRs 1935, discharge for Commission or for a Cadetship.

    Alistair
     

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  15. magna

    magna Member

    That's wonderful Alistair, thanks.

    As that was what I assumed it would be I searched the London Gazette for a commission soon after the discharge date and found who I was looking for. He was a RSM in the Royal Artillery and was commissioned as a Lt (QM) in the Queen's Regiment the day after discharge.

    Thanks again for your help.

    Regards

    Stephen
     
  16. Martha

    Martha New Member

    My father was an American in WW II who briefly served in the Royal Canadian Airforce before serving in the American Air Corp. He was in the RCAF from July to November of 1941. In going through his war records I found he was discharged in November of 41 for the following reason --King's Regulations 392, (12) which gives says 'Having become unfit for his Special Duties'. Does anyone know what that means? There are other discharges for becoming medically unfit and also for poor conduct. Is it just a catch all? Does it have a particular meaning? On the discharge document, his conduct is listed as 'good'. Any information would be much appreciated.

    Martha
     
  17. AB64

    AB64 Senior Member

    Hi,
    In the Army KR's 1940 392 is about allocation of pay if you have failed to disclose being married on enlistment, so not that - I've looked at RCAF KR's 1943 and 392 is about replacement medals - RAF KR's 1942 have 392 as being Airmen going on courses. None of these have multiple sections, sorry not any help. Is it possible to post up images from the records? they may give some context that helps.

    Alistair
     
  18. Martha

    Martha New Member

    Alistair,

    I found a copy of the King's Regulations for 1940, at this link-- Catalog Record: The King's regulations and orders for the... | Hathi Trust Digital Library
    On his 'Parchment Certificate of Discharge' from the RCAF it says "He is discharged on 12th of November in consequence of Para. 392 (12) K.R. Air, 'Having become unfit for his Special Duties' " When I look up 392 (12) of K. R. Air, all it has is that same phrase 'having become unfit for his Special Duties'. There are other sections of 392 that have to do with being medically unfit, not suited to the job, or having poor conduct, but (12) is apparently a distinct reason. I have uploaded a PDF of the page of the regulations. I could scan the Discharge Certificate at work tomorrow, but it really doesn't have much else on it, except when he entered, height, weight etc., says his conduct was good and his flying training is discontinued.

    Thanks for your help,
    Martha
     

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  19. PsyWar.Org

    PsyWar.Org Archive monkey

    Copies of Army Council Instructions can be found at the National Archives: Search results: Army council instruction wo293 | The National Archives

    Lee
     
  20. Henry Lloyd-Hughes

    Henry Lloyd-Hughes New Member

    Hi everyone, very interesting thread. I am doing some detailed research into my Grandfather's war records and I'm wondering if anyone can tell me what this means. I know its a discharge code but I am curious to know what it means. Thanks, Henry upload_2018-11-9_21-27-54.png
     

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