Just picked this collection up RB Owen 4187977

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  1. vespa100

    vespa100 Member

    Just picked this collection up to a gentleman by the name of Mr. R.B Owen reg number 4187977 20180416_125424-2016x1512.jpg 20180416_125508-1362x975.jpg

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  2. Guy Hudson

    Guy Hudson Looker-upper

    4187977 OWEN Robert B. Pte. Royal Welsh Fusiliers
    Born : 20th November 1911 Newtown, Montgomeryshire
    Enlisted in the R.W.F. at Newtown 26th November 1927 for 4 years
    Discharged Para 207 10th January 1930
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  3. vespa100

    vespa100 Member

    Great information Guy cheers, looks like he has had some military history.
  4. harkness

    harkness Well-Known Member

    NAME: Robert B Owen
    BIRTH: Jan 1913 - Newtown, Montgomeryshire
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  5. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    This might be him - as Harkness I can only find 1 Robert Owen born in Newtown and that was in 1913
    All England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1837-1915

    Robert B Owen 1913 Jan-Feb-Mar Newtown Montgomeryshire

    John E A Owen 1915 Jul-Aug-Sep Newtown Montgomeryshire

    Both with mothers maiden name Bell
    Name: Robert B Owen
    Mother's Maiden Name: Bell
    Registration Year: 1913
    Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
    Registration district: Newtown
    Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
    Inferred County: Montgomeryshire
    Volume: 11b
    Page: 255

    England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
    Name: Robert Bruce Owen
    Death Age: 82
    Birth Date: 1913
    Registration Date: Oct 1995
    Registration district: Welshpool and Llanfylin
    Inferred County: Powys
    Register Number: 7D
    District and Subdistrict: 8802

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  6. gmyles

    gmyles Senior Member


    Findmypast (British Army, Royal Welch Fusiliers 1807-1948 Image) says he joined Regular Army RASC in 1930 (docs at Woolwich)

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  7. vespa100

    vespa100 Member

    This would be right as his two RASC patches are with the collection
  8. vespa100

    vespa100 Member

    I have been told by my friend that the patches are "War Department Fleet. The W.D. fleet is an R.A.S.C. organization composed of Water Transport Companies, and Boat Stores Depots (for the provision of Marine Stores to the Army). The Motor Boat Companies were divided into Harbour, Ambulance and Fat Launch Companies and also Oil Barge, Coaster, Floating Workshops, and Fire Boat Companies. The R.A.S.C. Ensign of the W.D. Fleet was a Blue Ensign, on it the crossed swords of the Army badge, and was worn as the shoulder badge of the R.A.S.C. personnel of the Army's own fleet which saw service in Iceland; in the expedition in Spitzbergen; in West amd North Africa, the Middle East, the Far East and North-West Europe
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  9. vespa100

    vespa100 Member

    Thanks for all the information, do you think he would have had the same service number pre Ww2 as in Ww2
  10. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    See this thread Army Number Block Allocations
    See the block for RWF.
    These numbers came into use in 1920.
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