Hi All Following on from a previous post as under. I am helping a work friend get details for a family tree and ask if anybody can give anymore info re the following. Arthur Jacobs army number 4930 1896-1915 1st bat Border regiment KIA Gallipoli Another family members details have been found and am asking for any info you may be able to supply. John Henry Blackwell Farrier sgt 5th Lancers
smudgger Since you are probably aware that 5th (IRISH) Lancers were amalgamated with the 16th Lancers in 1922 - you are thinking WW1 - which might be very tricky to trace… Cheers
Hi smuddger There is a J H Blackwell in the medal rolls but he is designated as 51st Lancers and made the rank of corporal (although he could have stayed in and made sargeant later) British Army WWI Medal Rolls Index Cards, 1914-1920 about John H Blackwell Name: John H Blackwell Regiment or Corps: 51st Lrs Regimental Number: L/5082 But in total there are 77 Blackwells with a forename of John - so perhaps some other small detail would help pin him down ie date of birth, town of birth etc. - there are service records for 43 Blackwells with John as a forename - so the extra details would help in tracking down your man. TD
TD no such unit as 51st lancers- however there was a 51st RTR in 25th Army Tank bde - but they didn't take part in WW1 Cheers
Then someone has transcribed the information incorrectly - perhaps it is 5/Lrs?? Name: John H Blackwell Regiment or Corps: 51st Lrs Regimental Number: L/5082 The only 51st Lancers I could find where from the Indian/Pakistan region (not sure if they were WW1 or WW2) TD
Article reporting Arthur as sick in 1915. Think I may be way off the mark with the Blackwell find though.
Hi amberdog45 Arthur Jacobs is covered by smudgger in another thread he/she started - http://ww2talk.com/forums/topic/53784-arthur-jacobs-border-regiment-info/ Hope all is OK TD
Thanks all for help. I can confirm that his army number was 5082. Can sombody explain the medals that were awarded please.
Hi Tom & smudgger If you look at the medal card it does just show 5082 - there is another mark near to that number that I suppose the transcriber has seen as an 'L' - perhaps thinking "Ah yes 'L' for Lancers" no idea really just surmising. Medal wise : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pip,_Squeak_and_Wilfred and it looks as thought there is a clasp awarded and this was probably to the 1914 Star although I cannot be sure as its not my area - http://www.1914-1918.net/soldiers/themedals.html Clasp to the 1914 Star A bar clasp inscribed "5 Aug. to 22 Nov. 1914" was given to all those who qualified for the 1914 Star and who served under fire. Since the same ribbon is used with the 1914-15 Star, holders of the 1914 Star were permitted to wear a small silver rosette on their ribbon when the decoration itself is not worn. On the medal index cards this is usually noted as the "Clasp and Roses" or "C&R" .It was necessary to apply for the issue of the clasp TD
Hee hee, I thought I was having a dejavue moment when I read the surname. Can you tell I'm sleep deprived? Everything is fine, really enjoying the 2nd warmest summer on record for Scotland and the produce from the garden. Hope you are well too TD. Cheers - Maria (P.S. Good finds by the way on this thread)
