J. H. Sayfritz, Royal Engineers

Discussion in 'Royal Engineers' started by BereniceUK, Feb 16, 2017.

  1. BereniceUK

    BereniceUK Well-Known Member

    James H. Sayfritz is remembered on Coven's war memorial as having died in July 1944. However, the only Sayfritz in CWGC is John Harold Sayfritz, of Bushbury, Wolverhampton, died 29th July 1944. There's about 4 miles between Bushbury and Coven, so are they the same man, and, if so, was his name James or John?

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    SAYFRITZ, JOHN HAROLD
    Rank: Sapper
    Service No: 2110860
    Date of Death: 29/07/1944
    Age: 29
    Regiment/Service: Royal Engineers
    719 Artisan Works Coy.
    Grave Reference: Old ground. Row 52. Grave S/1.
    Cemetery: HEATH TOWN (HOLY TRINITY) CHURCHYARD
    Additional Information: Husband of F. Sayfritz, of Bushbury, Wolverhampton.
    Casualty Details
     
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  2. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

    Hello Berenice possible typo by the looks of things.
    I have seen it on a few memorials


    South Staffordshire War Memorial

    Sayfritz John Harold Sapper 2110860 719 Artisan Works Coy. Royal Engineers. Husband of F Sayfritz, of Bushbury, Wolverhampton. . Died - 29 July, 1944. Aged - 29. Memorial - Heath Town (Holy Trinity) Churchyard - Wolverhampton, United Kingdom. Old Ground. Row 52. Grave S/1.
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  3. BereniceUK

    BereniceUK Well-Known Member

    Thanks. I thought it likely that they were the same man, although not impossible that they were related.
     
  4. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    John Sayfritz in the UK, Army Roll of Honour, 1939-1945
    Name: John Sayfritz
    Given Initials: J H
    Rank: Sapper
    Death Date: 29 Jul 1944
    Number: 2110860
    Birth Place: Wolverhampton
    Residence: Wolverhampton
    Branch at Enlistment: Other Corps
    Theatre of War: United Kingdom
    Regiment at Death: Royal Engineers
    Branch at Death: Other Corps

    There is a death for a James but thats registered in Portsmouth:
    Name: James H Sayfritz
    Birth Date: abt 1916
    Date of Registration: Sep 1944
    Age at Death: 28
    Registration district: Portsmouth
    Inferred County: Hampshire
    Volume: 2b
    Page: 598

    However there is still room for confusion here and its possible even those building family trees have made errors, or more likely accepted errors that one tree has made and hence just repeated it as there are details as:
    James Harold Sayfritz

    Birth: BET Oct AND Dec 1914 (Oct 1914)
    Death: 29 Jul 1944 - Portsmouth
    Marriage: 11 Jun 1940 - Wolverhampton
    Spouse: Fanny Lawley
    F: Henry Bernard Sayfritz
    M: Emma Gertrude Peake


    OK - if I just search for Sayfritz (ie no forenames) then the only result I can find is :
    Name: John Sayfritz
    Mother's Maiden Surname: Walsh
    Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1918
    Registration district: Wolverhampton
    Inferred County: Staffordshire
    Volume Number: 6b
    Page Number: 887

    the only James birth is
    Alexander James Sayfritz
    Feb 1999 Wolverhampton West Midlands

    So I would guess John is the real name any other is an error - do you agree
    TD
     
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  5. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    Do we know where he died??

    There also seems quite some discrepancy over his birth date (1914 - 1918)

    TD
     

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