IWM E18642 photo - Crusader tanks - El Alamein

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  1. Ramiles

    Ramiles Researching 9th Lancers, 24th L and SRY

    THE BATTLE OF EL ALAMEIN, NORTH AFRICA, OCTOBER 1942

    E18642 : Object description - British Crusader tanks group together in the desert at sunset to defend themselves from surprise attack at night during the battle.

    Label : British Crusader tanks during the Battle of El Alamein, 28 October 1942.
     
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  2. Ramiles

    Ramiles Researching 9th Lancers, 24th L and SRY

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  3. Ramiles

    Ramiles Researching 9th Lancers, 24th L and SRY

    "Prior" photos -

    THE BRITISH ARMY IN NORTH AFRICA AND THE MIDDLE EAST 1940-1947
    IWM E18639 : Object description - Original wartime caption: A tank is loaded up with ammunition behind the lines. Taken by Sgt. Silverside.

    THE BRITISH ARMY IN NORTH AFRICA 1942
    IWM E18640 : Object description - A soldier filling a Crusader tank with petrol from a 4-gallon tin or 'flimsy', 27 October 1942. Taken by Sgt. Silverside.

    THE BRITISH ARMY IN NORTH AFRICA AND THE MIDDLE EAST 1940-1947
    IWM E18641 : Object description - Original wartime caption: Handing shells into the turret of a tank where they are stored inside. Taken by Sgt. Silverside.

    Further on...

    THE BRITISH ARMY IN NORTH AFRICA AND THE MIDDLE EAST 1940-1947
    IWM E18643 : Object description - Original wartime caption: Crusader tanks moving into leaguer at sunset, to avoid surprise attack on small units. Taken by Sgt. Silverside.

    THE BRITISH ARMY IN NORTH AFRICA AND THE MIDDLE EAST 1940-1947
    IWM E18644 : Object description - Original wartime caption: A British tank passes the wreckage of an enemy bomber in the Desert. Taken by Sgt. Silverside.

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    THE BRITISH ARMY IN NORTH AFRICA AND THE MIDDLE EAST 1940-1947
    IWM E18645 : Object description - Original wartime caption: A Valentine tank advancing through loose sand. Taken by Sgt. Travis.
    (Nb. actually a Crusader tank, rather than a Valentine, despite what the Object description and caption card currently says).

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    THE BRITISH ARMY IN NORTH AFRICA AND THE MIDDLE EAST 1940-1947
    IWM E18646 : Object description - Original wartime caption: A special lorry carrying a 6-pounder gun is camouflaged to look like an ordinary "soft skin". Taken by Sgt. Fox.
     
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  4. Ramiles

    Ramiles Researching 9th Lancers, 24th L and SRY

    Re. IWM E18645...

    THE BRITISH ARMY IN NORTH AFRICA AND THE MIDDLE EAST 1940-1947
    IWM E18645 : Object description - Original wartime caption: A Valentine tank advancing through loose sand. Taken by Sgt. Travis.
    (Nb. actually a Crusader tank, rather than a Valentine, despite what the Object description and caption card currently says).

    20221109_104648.jpg

    Sergeant Chris Travis was an accomplished photographer -

    IWM AFPU Portrait photographs

    - who had taken pictures of Valentines and Crusaders...


    Find an object | Imperial War Museums

    Find an object | Imperial War Museums

    IWM E18645 is also between E18644 by Sergeant Silverside and E18645 by Sergeant Fox, so seems quite an anomalous pic. to crop up there.
     
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  5. Andreas

    Andreas Working on two books

    The Valentine pictures says on the back that it was taken by Lt. Knight?

    It's an interesting one though, as they were practising assault landings there I think.

    All the best

    Andreas
     
  6. Ramiles

    Ramiles Researching 9th Lancers, 24th L and SRY

    Perhaps all three, Lieutenant Derek Knight, and Sergeants Chris Travis & Newman were taking pictures and the results were pooled?

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    For "Story" see...

    COMBINED OPERATIONS EXERCISE
    IWM E8136 : Object description - Original wartime caption: Troops embarking on to an A.L.C. from a transport.

    COMBINED OPERATIONS EXERCISE
    IWM E8137

    COMBINED OPERATIONS EXERCISE
    IWM E8138

    COMBINED OPERATIONS EXERCISE
    IWM E8139

    COMBINED OPERATIONS EXERCISE
    IWM E8140

    COMBINED OPERATIONS EXERCISE
    IWM E8141

    COMBINED OPERATIONS EXERCISE
    IWM E8142

    COMBINED OPERATIONS EXERCISE
    IWM E8143

    COMBINED OPERATIONS EXERCISE
    IWM E8144

    COMBINED OPERATIONS EXERCISE
    IWM E8145

    COMBINED OPERATIONS EXERCISE
    IWM E8146

    COMBINED OPERATIONS EXERCISE
    IWM E8147

    COMBINED OPERATIONS EXERCISE
    IWM E8148

    Etc...
     
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  7. Andreas

    Andreas Working on two books

    Thanks. This is an amazing find.

    Just poked around a bit:

    CHAPTER 4 — Into 1942 and Syria | NZETC

    CHAPTER 6 — Syrian Interlude | NZETC

    CHAPTER 8 — Rebuilding after Battle | NZETC

    All the best

    Andreas
     
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