Information on 253 during WW2

Discussion in 'Royal Engineers' started by JimmyL, Oct 10, 2018.

  1. JimmyL

    JimmyL New Member

    I am new to the forum so appolagies if I am breaking any rules.

    I am trying to find details of an uncles company during WW2. Mainly the areas he may have served and potential role the company would have taken.

    I have the following details.
    Joseph Walmsley
    Royal Engineers
    253 Seated company

    Any help just pointing me in the correct place to begin researching would be really appreciated.

  2. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    Hi Jim

    The best route for you to take is to obtain his service records, from them you can piece together the answers to your questions without going down blind alleys - the link provides details of the forms and where to send them, they are currently taking something like 4 - 8 weeks

    Request records of deceased service personnel

    By the way whats a Seated company - not heard of one of those before

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  3. JimmyL

    JimmyL New Member

    Thanks TD.
    Yes the seated bit has confused me, our relative has read this from Joe's medal. However i believe it is actually field company. (Not sure where seated bit from).
  4. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    Medal (?) - generally he would have received a minimum of 2 - service records first then the gap filling can start

  5. timuk

    timuk Well-Known Member

    ?? Didn't think WW2 medals were engraved.

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  6. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery Patron

    your right Tim they weren't
  7. JimmyL

    JimmyL New Member

    To clear up the medal this is the information I have.

    Lance corporal
    Royal engineers
    253 company (as earlier msg i was told seated but believe this to be field)
    Deceased last year

    Altho nothing to do with records an amazing man and one of the kindest men you could hope to meet.

    I thought the info came from a medal, if they did not engrave in WW2 then I am incorrect. I am not next door to my relative but i thought they had engraved on medals so advised them to look at the medal for his conscription number. My guess is they found the info in some of his records.

    I am trying to find his possible movments and specifically if there was involvment at Arnhem. I wondered if it was possoble to follow the company first as i thought it maybe easier than an individual. I am new to this (24 hours) and so far I think either a trip to the archives or the link as recommended earlier.

    Thanks. J
  8. Steve Mac

    Steve Mac Very Senior Member

    According to the link (below) 253 Field Coy, RE, were divisional troops of the 3rd Infantry Division. The 3rd Div fought with the BEF in Belgium/France in 1940, were then in the UK until June 1944, thereafter being an assault Division on Sword Beach on D-Day and the fighting in NW Europe.

    If you search 3rd Div online and follow their path from 6 June 1944 onwards you will gain a good idea of where your Uncle served.

    3rd Division 1939-1945

  9. hutt

    hutt Member

    If it's 253 field company then there are a couple of diaries at Kew but as on phone, difficult to post links till this evening. 44 didn't seem to be there so research may lead looking at higher formations for that period
  10. Mr Jinks

    Mr Jinks Bit of a Cad

    If he had been a Territorial he may have an Efficiency medal,they were named ? (Possibly not with the level of detail supplied ?)

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  11. JimmyL

    JimmyL New Member

    Thanks for the help guys and sorry about the poor info supplied.

    I was hunting the info for a trip that my wife and I have returned from our Market Garden to follow in Joe's footsteps. It was an emotional trip and unbelievable to see how close the fighting was. I was very pleased at how well the Dutch recieve the British and the work taking place in their museum's.

    Following further hunting we found the info we required on Joe he was in fact in the 553 (long story on the confusion and will not bore with the details).

    He cleared mines on the way to Nijmegen, obviously he did not make it to Arnhem (at that point in the war). We did get to see where he got to in Nijmegan tho.

  12. sjw8

    sjw8 Well-Known Member

    Good to heard that you were able to get to the bottom of your uncle's service details and, as a result, follow in his footsteps. I did a similar trip earlier this year (in France) tracing my dad's evacuation route in 1940 from the frontline on the Rivers Andelle & Bethune, back through Rouen to the Normandy coast, visiting locations and it certainly gave me a better insight in what they all went through.
    Steve W

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