Info on Stalag 4c

Discussion in 'Prisoners of War' started by falcon1959, Sep 24, 2010.

  1. falcon1959

    falcon1959 Junior Member

    Whilst doing some family research I managed to find out that my grandfather, Harold Booton of the South Wales Border Regiment was held at stalag 4c. His POW number was 248929.

    I am looking to find out some more about his regiment, and the camp itself. If anyone can point me in the right direction I would appreciate it.

    I do have a few stories that have been passed down from him, but he is no longer with us, having passed away in 1968.

    He had very bad scars on his legs that he told his family he received from being caught by a guard dog whilst escaping. He also returned to the UK with a silver inscribed pocket watch that he said he obtained by swapping 2 eggs with one of the german guards.

    He also came back with a book of poems and notes made by other men whilst they where pow's which I am hoping to get my hands on to scan on to my computer.

    Anyone that can help I would be very grateful.
     
  2. eNZedFred

    eNZedFred Junior Member

    Stalag 4C was a camp at Sudentenland Treibstoff Werke, Wistritz bei Teplitz near Brüx (now called Most) in Czechoslovakia.
    Prisoners worked in brown coal mines, and the fuel waa derived from the coal.
    There was also an Oflag 4C.
    Good luck in your searching.
    Cheers, Fred.
    PS. It would be really great to 'see' some of the extracts from his book one day, especially if you name individuals in a text so they will be searchable by others.
    (At least I think that's how it works, I'm real new to this site.
     
  3. ADM199

    ADM199 Well-Known Member

    Just a bit more.

    The Base Camp of 4C was in an Old Pottery Factory in Town Centre; Position given is 50:39N - 13:49E.

    There were British,French,Dutch,Belgians and Polish P.O.W. in the Camp.
     
  4. ADM199

    ADM199 Well-Known Member

    He is not listed as POW in 1944 in Germany. Could be an omission or he could have still been in Italy.

    In 1943 he is listed as PG 54.Italy
     
  5. rodopis.valenta@email.cz

    rodopis.valenta@email.cz Junior Member

    Stalag IVC Wistritz bei Teplitz

    Hlavní tábor pro vězně válečného mužstva IVC Bystřice u Teplic

    Stalag IV C je nainstalován v centru města Wistritz Teplitz-Schönau odst.), v porcelánce. Tam bylo 23,537 vězni v červnu 1943 RGT velvyslanec Scapini), ale "jen" 14.833 podle MVČK čtyři měsíce později (*).
    Noviny obdržel název "Reflections".
    V Německu 1939-1945, Stalag, zkratka Stammlager, byl termín pro typ tábora pro válečné zajatce. Stammlager znamená Mannschaftsstamm-und Straflager, "obyčejné vojenské tábory vězňů." Tento typ tábora byl pro vojáky a poddůstojníky, důstojníky se koná v oflags. (Zdroje: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalag~~HEAD=NNS)

    Váleční zajatci jsou připojeny do táborů rozloženo vojenské okresech Reich: Wehrkreis.
    V Německu v době, kdy sériová čísla v rozmezí od I Wehrkreis Wehrkreis XIII. Wehrkreis XVII a XVIII jsou v Rakousku a Polsku XX a XXI.
    Location: Wistritz, Czech Republic

    District: Wehrkreis IV - Dresden

    Opened: February 1941

    Closed: 1945
    ---

    Camps for Ground Forces

    Stalag IV B (Muhlberg, Germany)
    Stalag IV C (Wistritz, Germany)


    Tábor byl otevřen v únoru 1941. [1] Hlavní tábor byl umístěn v bývalé porcelánky továrny. V roce 1943 méně než 250 mužů tam byli, se zbývající populace, někteří 23,000 mužů, spojené s různými Arbeitskommando práci v místním průmyslu a stavebnictví. Největší oddělení, z 8000 mužů, byl v Brux (nyní Most ) [2] pracuje na stavbě Sudentenlandische-Treibstoff-Werke ("Sudet paliva stavby"), v rámci státní průmyslové konglomerátu Reichswerke Hermann Göring . Tato zařízení byla navržena tak, aby zpracování ropy z uhlí , a jako součást kampaně na spojenecké útoku německé produkce ropy by byl bombardován několikrát v období mezi červencem 1944 a dubnem 1945. Ve druhém nájezdu na 21. července 1944 byl šest britských válečných zajatců zabit a 21 bylo zraněno. [3] tábor byl osvobozen ruskou armádou v květnu 1945. [4]
     
  6. RASC

    RASC Junior Member

    hello all......i'm trying to find out more about my grandad, he was a prisoer in IVC as well, Dvr Fred Winmill, captured in the desert and moved here after the Italians Capitulated.....how do i go about finding more info?
     
  7. wolflyn

    wolflyn Junior Member

    hi,, my grandfather was also in the South Wales Borderers and was also at IVC, and from what an uncle has said was also possibly at a POW camp in Italy

    Dillwyn Pritchard
    DOB 21.11.1920 in Neath,
    Died Sept 1991
    Military Record
    Rank. Private
    Regiment. The South Wales Borderers
    Army no. 3915052
    Camp no. 4C
    Prisoner or War no 252054
    Camp type. Stalag
    Camp location. Wistritz bei Teplitz

    any info anyone may be able to offer would be appreciated
     
  8. wolflyn

    wolflyn Junior Member

    just found the 1943 POW record for my grandfather in Italy
    he was at PG70 Monturano
     
  9. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    Falcon,

    Just for information:
    UK, British Prisoners of War, 1939-1945 about H J Booton
    Name: H J Booton
    Rank: Private
    Army Number: 4073031
    Regiment: South Wales Borderers
    POW Number: 248929
    Camp Type: Stalag
    Camp Number: IV-C
    Camp Location: Bystrice, Czech Republic
    Record Office: Infantry Record Office, Exeter
    Record Office Number: 22
     
  10. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    Wolflyn,

    For information:
    UK, British Prisoners of War, 1939-1945 about D Pritchard
    Name: D Pritchard
    Rank: Private
    Army Number: 3915052
    Regiment: South Wales Borderers
    POW Number: 252054
    Camp Type: Stalag
    Camp Number: IV-C
    Camp Location: Bystrice, Czech Republic
    Record Office: Infantry Record Office, Exeter
    Record Office Number: 22

    TD
     
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  11. sync

    sync New Member

    hello my cousin ,
     
  12. GCEK

    GCEK New Member

    Hi - it is here https://goo.gl/maps/gpPj9HvnS2F2 - it is the premises of the former porcelain factory. There is a picture and a short article on page 9 of this http://www.mesto-dubi.cz/file/548.pdf - here is a translation I did:
    From February 1941 until the liberation by the Red Army on May 8, 1945, about 23,000 prisoners of war passed through the camp; (30% French, 20% British, Serbian, Belgian, Dutch and Italian, and 50% Soviets). After the suppression of the Slovak National Uprising, Slovak partisans were also placed there.

    The vast majority worked outside the town, in ‘Arbeitskomanden’ in the surrounding coal mines, etc., after which largest number were sent to work in the chemical works in Litvínov, at the time a plant for converting brown coal into much-needed fuel, synthetic gasoline and other products (German name Sudetenländische Treibstoffwerke AG (STW AG).

    The camp began to be established in February 1940, when the first 20 prisoners (Frenchmen) were brought here to convert the former "Krautzberger, Mayer und Purkert G.B.B.H.Wistritz (K.M.P., KAEMPE)" porcelain factory, nowadays the former Řempo premises, into a prison camp.

    On average about 1,200 prisoners were placed there, and there was also a hospital collection point for prisoners. At the end of 1941, the camp commandants leased the “Schweizermühle” inn from the village of Novosedlice [then known as Weißkirchlitz], where a hospital for prisoners of war was set up. The camp guard was provided by the LS-Batalion 369.

    Prisoners carried out war production here in the machine shop (the former "ventilator shop", later Stavební stroje, which today is a parking lot by the PENNY shop), and also repairs to the bed of the Horská Bystřice stream and, it is said, also to the “spa” walkways.
     

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