Identifying regiment

Discussion in 'General' started by John Fitzgerald, Aug 30, 2018.

  1. The photo is of my wife’s uncle, Walter John Pittaway known as Wally or occasionally as Johnny. He was from East London and as far as the family know he served in the Parachute regiment in 1944.

    However, that is all that is known about his army life and this photo is all that remains. No service number is known.

    It is thought he suffered from shell shock in France or Belgium in July/August 1944 but that was passed down from a long dead relative.

    Can anyone identify the uniform he is wearing!
     
  2. Sorry photo now attached.

    John
     

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  3. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    Hi John

    To find out more about him and the regiments he may have been in why not apply for his service records which are his official military history - link to forms Request records of deceased service personnel from this you (and our help if you need it) can fill in the gaps

    TD
     
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  4. 8RB

    8RB Well-Known Member

    Wouldn't have notice if you would not have mentioned something it airborne, but isn't that a glider badge on his right forearm? So could be one of the (Scottish) glider borne regiments with 1st or 6th Airborne Division, like KOSB with 1st...

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  5. Thanks guys that’s helpful.

    I will leave it for a week or so and if I don’t hear anything further I will apply for his service records.

    As he was from London would it have been unusual for him to have joined a Scottish regiment?

    John
     
  6. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    No not all, it was the British Army & the Army sent men to where-ever they were needed.
     
  7. Your replies leave me wanting more!

    We’re there many Scottish glider borne regiments that were in NW Europe in July/Aug 1944?

    Excuse my naivety.

    John
     
  8. Mr Jinks

    Mr Jinks Bit of a Cad

    Any relation to this fellow:-
    Civilian
    PITTAWAY, WALTER JOHN
    Died 19/10/1940
    Aged 61
    Civilian War Dead
    of 33 Highgrove Road, Dagenham, Essex. Died at 448 Mile End Road.

    Kyle
     
  9. No I don’t believe so Kyle although our Wally also lived in Dagenham in later life!
    He was actually from the Bow/ Poplar area.

    I have seen this before and I am not aware of any connection although Wally has a sister still alive and living in Australia so I will try and find out. The age of this chap would be around the same as Wally’s grandfather.

    John
     
  10. Mr Jinks

    Mr Jinks Bit of a Cad

    Thanks John,

    In light of his shellshock I checked the casualty lists but found no W. Pittaway but I did find a 3774730 L/Cpl J Pittaway but the unit listed is 2nd Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers reported missing believed captured 2 May 1944 (Italy) The number 3774730 is from `The King's Regiment` enlistment block.
    PoW transcription for this particular `Pittaway`
    Name: J Pittaway
    Rank: Lance Corporal
    Army Number: 3774730
    Regiment: Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers
    POW Number: 132304
    Camp Type: Stalag
    Camp Number: VII-A
    Camp Location: Moosburg an der Isar, Bavaria

    Kyle
     
  11. Thanks Kyle but don't think we have the correct person here but full marks for trying!

    John
     
  12. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1916-2007
    Name: Walter J Pittaway
    Registration Date: 1924
    Registration district: Mile End
    Inferred County: Greater London
    Re-registration Year: 1924
    Mother's Maiden Name: Stannard
    Volume Number: 1c
    Page Number: 451

    England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
    Name: Walter John Pittaway
    Death Age: 56
    Birth Date: 6 Apr 1924
    Registration Date: Sep 1980
    Registration district: Havering
    Inferred County: Greater London
    Volume: 13
    Page: 0164

    Rather than guessing why not send for his service records as in post no 3

    TD
     
  13. TD, I have just completed the forms and applied for a copy of the death certificate.
    As soon as that arrives I will apply to the MOD for his service record.

    I will let you all know the outcome!

    John
     
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  14. Have now received the war service records.

    Walter John Pittaway Army no: 14307777

    Originally enlisted and posted to the Essex Regiment but transferred to 2nd Bn of the Ox and Bucks which was part of the 6th Airborne Landing Brigade.

    Is it possible to find out what Company he served in?

    I know he spent some time in a Monastery in France and his record indicates he was suffering from exhaustion in mid July 1944.

    What I do not understand is why none of the websites i.e. Ancestry etc have a record of him nor does the Ox & Bucks museum have him listed!

    Further, it appears from 15.10.45 to 19.04.47 he was serving in the MEF? What and where exactly did his Battalion do in the middle east?

    Grateful if anyone can throw some light on his service and I would be happy to provide someone with copies of his service record but obviously I am reluctant to put copies on the forum.

    Seems he, like most of his mates, went through it after D-Day.

    Thanks

    John
     
  15. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

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  16. Hi TD,

    Would be happy for them to be viewed but only have hard copies at present.

    John
     
  17. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    We will await your upload then

    TD

    I would also suggest using this site search engine there are quite a number of threads on Ox & Bucks
     
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  18. TD

    Service record uploaded.

    Any translation of it would be greatly appreciated and may well explain a few things.

    Assume it still doesn't identify what company he served in.

    Thanks

    John
     

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  19. Alex1975uk

    Alex1975uk Well-Known Member

    Ox and Bucks being part of 6 Airlanding Brigade were deployed to Palestine in October 1945 along with 2nd and 3rd Parachute Brigade.
    6 air landing were responsible for the Samaria section ( North and East of Palestine)
    I’ve recently got hold of this book “cordon and search” detailing the 6th Airborne Div in Palestine.

    Alex
     

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  20. Pat Atkins

    Pat Atkins Well-Known Member

    He seems to have been transferred on leaving hospital in January 1945 to 1st Bn Highland Light Infantry, which would explain the original photo. I say "seems" because I'm lousy at translating service records - apologies in advance if this is wrong.

    Pat
     

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