Identify this aircraft

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  1. Skintman1

    Skintman1 Member

    Hi All,

    Found these photo's while at the market thats held twice a year in Speyer Tecknik Musuem Germany,

    Any ideas on the aircraft? place, crrew etc , sorry no date , all the reverse says is " enemy crash aircraft" and the place they were processed " PhotoBach B154 Hagen/W."


    Cheers
    Dom
     

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  2. SDP

    SDP Incurable Cometoholic

    Handley Page Hampden?.....which makes it early Wartime.
     
  3. Aeronut

    Aeronut Junior Member

    I don't think its a Hampden, that rear fuselage and wing just don't look right. I have a gut feeling that its a French design but that raises the question of why the roundels appear to RAF colours and not French (Blue outer ring rather than red).
     
  4. Skintman1

    Skintman1 Member

    Not sure on teh Hampden also , Ive had other sugestions







    French Breguet 693

    French Bloch 174/175, possible.

    and yes if French why the roundels !?


    Dom
     
  5. Orwell1984

    Orwell1984 Senior Member

    The aircraft in question is a Breguet 693. (to be more specific a 691 the earlier model of a 693 according to squadron records)
    The curve of the rear fuselage and straight across double tail are clues as to the type. The wing camouflage and roundels (which look similar in shading to other black and white pictures of the type) are clues as to the nationality. The clincher is the snail cartoon on the fuselage. This actually allows the particular aircraft to be identified.
    I've attached a profile of it included in the book: Breguet 693 Le lion de l'aviation d'assault.
    It is Breguet 693 No5 'Dadou" from GBAII/54, shot down by fighters June 5 1940
    From Peter Cornwell's "The Battle of France Then and Now" page 425
    Addendum under entry reads " Due to intense shelling in the area, it proved impossible to recover the body of Raymond Brunet and he was never found. He has no known grave".
     

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  6. SDP

    SDP Incurable Cometoholic

    At least I got the 'early wartime' bit right! :)

    Well done to Orwell1984
     
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  7. pminotti

    pminotti Junior Member

  8. Smudger Jnr

    Smudger Jnr Our Man in Berlin

    Very well spotted.

    Regards
    Tom
     
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  9. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

    delete post please
     
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  10. AlanW

    AlanW Senior Member

    Not the same airman. S/Lt Brunet was a Frenchman, whereas Sgt Brunette was a Canadian and killed over a year after the Breguet was shot down.
     
  11. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery

    well done Alan too quick i was
     
  12. aussie_59

    aussie_59 Senior Member

    Just out of interest... is the snail a reference to the shape of the fuselage? There's some odd looking a/c from this era, and this is one of them!
     
  13. Skintman1

    Skintman1 Member

    Thanks all,

    clears this little mystery up .... I will be back in Germany soon , will have to see if i can find some more....

    Dom
     
  14. MPILOT

    MPILOT Junior Member

    Hello

    This Breguet is not the one crashed in Hattencourt in a garden closed with a wall

    Sincerly
     

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