View attachment 595 I'm having a terrible time trying to identify a self-propelled AA gun I saw at the US Army Ordnance Museum at the Aberdeen Proving Gruonds in Maryland. Maybe somebody can help me? I will describe the gun below, but for closer reference, I've attached a picture of it pulled from the museum's web page. For those of you disinclined to open attachments, here's the address to the picture: http://www.ordmusfound.org/flak40.jpg The vehicle consists of what looks very much like a Flakzwilling-40 placed atop a low-profile tracked chassis of some type, although the tracks are no longer present on the specimen at Aberdeen. A Flakzwilling-40 is a stationary twin-mount of 128mm Anti-Aircraft Cannon, each of which can pivot vertically and fire independantly, but traverse 360 degrees on a common fixed horizontal trajectory. Flakzwilling-40s and similar twin-mount guns of other calibers were typically emplaced to provide air defence over German naval installations. The twin-mount on this oddball vehicle is not identical to a Flakzwilling-40 but very closely resembles one. Can anybody pin a name on this thing for me? -Benson
Originally posted by benson01@Apr 7 2005, 05:21 PM View attachment 595 I'm having a terrible time trying to identify a self-propelled AA gun I saw at the US Army Ordnance Museum at the Aberdeen Proving Gruonds in Maryland. Maybe somebody can help me? I will describe the gun below, but for closer reference, I've attached a picture of it pulled from the museum's web page. For those of you disinclined to open attachments, here's the address to the picture: http://www.ordmusfound.org/flak40.jpg The vehicle consists of what looks very much like a Flakzwilling-40 placed atop a low-profile tracked chassis of some type, although the tracks are no longer present on the specimen at Aberdeen. A Flakzwilling-40 is a stationary twin-mount of 128mm Anti-Aircraft Cannon, each of which can pivot vertically and fire independantly, but traverse 360 degrees on a common fixed horizontal trajectory. Flakzwilling-40s and similar twin-mount guns of other calibers were typically emplaced to provide air defence over German naval installations. The twin-mount on this oddball vehicle is not identical to a Flakzwilling-40 but very closely resembles one. Can anybody pin a name on this thing for me? -Benson [post=32978]Quoted post[/post] it is a standard flak 40 but the carriage is an addition from american sources. View attachment 596 Flak40 in situ
Back in the 1970s I worked at the British equivalent of a US "Proving Ground" and you would find all manner of equipments on unusual mountings for ease of use on the ranges. These would include de-turretted tank chasis. I would guess that the equipment was originally taken to the US for evaluation purposes and mounted on a SP chassis to facilitate moving around the ranges as required.
Originally posted by angie999@Apr 10 2005, 09:09 AM Back in the 1970s I worked at the British equivalent of a US "Proving Ground" and you would find all manner of equipments on unusual mountings for ease of use on the ranges. These would include de-turretted tank chasis. I would guess that the equipment was originally taken to the US for evaluation purposes and mounted on a SP chassis to facilitate moving around the ranges as required. [post=33047]Quoted post[/post] was that anywhere near to melton mowbery?
Originally posted by morse1001+Apr 10 2005, 10:25 AM-->(morse1001 @ Apr 10 2005, 10:25 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-angie999@Apr 10 2005, 09:09 AM Back in the 1970s I worked at the British equivalent of a US "Proving Ground" and you would find all manner of equipments on unusual mountings for ease of use on the ranges. These would include de-turretted tank chasis. I would guess that the equipment was originally taken to the US for evaluation purposes and mounted on a SP chassis to facilitate moving around the ranges as required. [post=33047]Quoted post[/post] was that anywhere near to melton mowbery? [post=33050]Quoted post[/post] [/b] No, Shoeburyness in Essex.
There was one near melton, it was disussed when we used it for an exercise. There was still quiter a lot of stuff lying around!
