I have flocked a couple of bases...

Discussion in 'Tabletop Games' started by LesCM19, Mar 17, 2010.

  1. LesCM19

    LesCM19 "...lets rock!"

    ...just to see what they might look like.
    Not sure if I should build up the edges of the figure bases. The 5.5" gun crew (repaint job) had polyfilla slapped on but the German M/C & Belgian MG crew have not.
     

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  2. Rob Dickers

    Rob Dickers 10th MEDIUM REGT RA

    :)
    Very nice Les, you need another two men (10) on the 5.5 detachment.
    Cheers
    Rob.;)
     
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  3. Za Rodinu

    Za Rodinu Hot air manufacturer

    They're behind the bush taking a leak!

    I myself am making some experiments on flocking. A fine guide in in a blog owned by our co-member Wotnochad right here and here.

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    These are very pretty too, even if belonging to a different era.

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    On a different style
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    Notice how all of these have more than one type of flock on each base?
     
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  4. LesCM19

    LesCM19 "...lets rock!"

    They are a bit boring at the moment, I find you can't tell what the overall impression of the miniature is without the base done but the bases are going to customised to some extent anyway so I can tell the platoons apart, a bit like LLOYDIAN CROSSFIRE BASING. I don't fancy going down the Bonsai diorama route like 6mil WotNoChad Phil (maybe when the kids have gone through Uni and I can retire properly!! :lol:) as I have been painting the little buggers since 15th Feb & now I need to have a game.
     
  5. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    I think the way you've done yours is perfectly good for a game.
    Those others look too pretty.
    They're mini dioramas not wargames bases.
     
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  6. Za Rodinu

    Za Rodinu Hot air manufacturer

    They're mini dioramas and wargames bases.

    There, fixed it for you :)

    The point is: all of this is feasible, in time and expense! All you have to do is follow the how-tos.
     
  7. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    That German command group would look pretty stupid in an urban setting.
    Not many ploughed fields in towns.

    Plainer & simpler the bases the better for me.
     
  8. Za Rodinu

    Za Rodinu Hot air manufacturer

    Why the harsh vocabulary? If you want to glue your figs to plain cardboard bases be my guest, but no need to disparage the work of others who take pleasure in going a step further.
     
  9. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Why the harsh vocabulary?

    What harsh vocabulary ?
    Did I say they were shite or crap?
    No, just too pretty for functional wargames bases, more like mini-dioramas.
    Nothing harsh in that.
     
  10. LesCM19

    LesCM19 "...lets rock!"

    Now, now!:cop:

    ~my rifle groups are on 15mm tiddlywinks, so there's not a lot of room for anything except a tiny sprig of lichen, just to break up the grass, which suits me
    ~the ground scale I use (1" to 100m) and I guess, my somewhat cramped terrain boards, I don't think lend themselves to foot elements having large bases (now they are going onto tiddlywinks they won't fit down my country lanes properly for instance) but I don't think I will ever base up vehicles.
    ~miniatures loaded with terrain would probably last years & years even in the hands of my 8 year old (once properly trained on handling techniques of course!)


    WotNo6milPhil & Ritterkrieg's miniatures are totally fab, natsh, but beyond me at my present level of patience & ability.:cheers:
     
  11. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Sorry for being a grumpty old twat.
    Excellent modelling skills on those bases.
     
  12. LesCM19

    LesCM19 "...lets rock!"

    They look fine!!! Now I'm waiting for the wash as promised :)

    BTW the figures have had a wash of Windsor & Newton but I may have made it too weak or mopped off the 'excess' too soon on some of the tanks. Perhaps less is more (unless you tear the ar*e out of it)? :unsure: Look alright on the table, though...

    Below: The SiG33 came with integral crew and will be used in conjunction with SdKfz 111 munitionschleppers; the PzJgrs did not have crews (which looked odd) so I have stuffed a couple of spare gun crew types in there. StuG 3Bs will operate with SdKfz 253s for no gaming reason other than they did in the real thing and I didn't want them to feel left out.
     

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  13. Za Rodinu

    Za Rodinu Hot air manufacturer

    ...but beyond me at my present level of a) patience & b) ability.:cheers:
    Understand a), disagree with b) :lol:
     
  14. Za Rodinu

    Za Rodinu Hot air manufacturer

    Here's another site, Rhys Batchelor from NZ, now a bit oldish already.

    Possibly tomorrow I'll put up some photos of my own work, enough of this vicarial thing.

    Re terrain boards, although I did myself buy quite a few beautiful ones from another guy who had to let them go for space reasons, even if I myself do have the space for them I think that for practical reasons there's nothing like the good old green cloth. More on this later.
     
  15. Za Rodinu

    Za Rodinu Hot air manufacturer

    Enough talking about others, here is the result of my labours :)

    In Spearhead terms a Pz IV battalion.

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    The bases are card thick enough so I can handle them by the base and not the model. The beauty of this is that I can add more or different flock at any time, or other elements, say a wall, fence, whatever if I feel like later. The tankies are Heroics & Ros, by the way.

    Perhaps I made the ground base colour a bit too dark, next unit will be lighter :)
     
  16. LesCM19

    LesCM19 "...lets rock!"

    They look scrummy!:camouflage:
    I don't think I have my wash technique down all that well, coz the detail on yours leaps out a lot more, or gives that impression.
    (I see you have Kubelwagen with top down, they come with top up now which makes a nice variation)
     
  17. Za Rodinu

    Za Rodinu Hot air manufacturer

    What are you using for the wash?

    I used Vallejo "Smoke" heavily thinned and with some Johnson "Klear" added to make watter 'wetter'. I brushed it on and them removed excess with bits of kitchen paper towel. After drying overnight I did a very careful drybrush with Vallejo dark flesh. As always better to do it twice lightly than once heavilyt.

    If your wash is too thin and you have to do it twice, so much the better!

    After cleaning the tankies from flash, I wash them in warm water and kitchen detergent, and let dry completely., over the telly if need be. Then I give them a spray coat of the base green or whatever, or flat white. I swear by Citadel Skull White!

    Then it's a matter of applying paint as usual, again taking care to thin adequately to avoid the feared blobby look. Most of my Russians were painted this way, and the irregularity of the thinned green over the white base looks great, at least to me it does :) Also while painting truck tarps I tend to add little bits of this and that on a palette to vary the basic khaki and avoid giving them too much uniformness.

    Look, I'm basically a lazy fellow, and all these refinements don't take took much work. If you're not planning to paint 300 models for the next weekend, why not taking it easy and doing things right but on a planned routine? The results are worth it!
     
  18. LesCM19

    LesCM19 "...lets rock!"

    What are you using for the wash?

    Windsor & Newton black, watered down a lot with a drop of washing up liquid! It certainly runs all over better with this. The biggest headache I am finding is that the kitchen towel sucks most of the wash off, but I will keep on experimenting, I have loads of late war AFVs I can torture...
     
  19. Smudger Jnr

    Smudger Jnr Our Man in Berlin

    All modellers in such a small scale have my respect as I do not think my eyesight could stand the strain of working on such miniature creations.

    Regards
    Tom
     
  20. Za Rodinu

    Za Rodinu Hot air manufacturer

    Windsor & Newton black, watered down a lot with a drop of washing up liquid! It certainly runs all over better with this. The biggest headache I am finding is that the kitchen towel sucks most of the wash off, but I will keep on experimenting, I have loads of late war AFVs I can torture...

    Ahh, so if the towel is sucking it too much then it's doing its work :) I suggest you use a bit less washing up liquid, W&N inks are rather thin already. Try adding some Johnson's Klear and less detergent.

    I feel straight black is too harsh a shadow, mine is a black + brown mix.

    All modellers in such a small scale have my respect as I do not think my eyesight could stand the strain of working on such miniature creations.

    Regards
    Tom

    Use a 50x magnifying glass and you'll feel like you're working at your 1:6 scale :)
     

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