I G A Bowman Ch/Eng Merchant Navy help

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  1. James Harvey

    James Harvey Senior Member

    Hi I’m trying to find details on Ian Gordon Ackroyd Bowman died 24/12/42

    found an entry he was in the merchant navy as a chief engineer but cannot find him in CWGC and cannot find him in the ww2 MN index cards

    I have ancestry and cannot find him on there.

    can anyone help

    regards

    James
     

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  2. Hugh MacLean

    Hugh MacLean Senior Member

    Hi James,
    First name(s) Ian Gordon Ackroyd
    Last name Bowman
    Age 52
    Birth year 1890
    Death year 1942
    Burial year 1942
    Burial date 29 Dec 1942
    Church St Barnabas
    Denomination Anglican
    Place Burnmoor
    County Durham
    Country England
    Record set National Burial Index For England & Wales
    Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
    Subcategory Parish Burials
    Collections from Great Britain, England

    Looks like he did not die at sea. I have some records for him prior to WW2 but if you need directions to WW2 records let me know.

    Regards
    Hugh
     
  3. James Harvey

    James Harvey Senior Member

    Hi Hugh

    I don’t have any information. So any help greatly appreciated

    regards

    james
     
  4. James Harvey

    James Harvey Senior Member

    He was serving TSS Clan Colquhoun in 1939 as chief engineer he was born 24/9/1890 and served ww1

    this was the ex white star line galliac.

    but cannot find and previous service.
     
  5. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    Looks as though he died on land

    England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
    Name: Ian G A Bowman
    Death Age: 52
    Birth Date: abt 1890
    Registration Date: Oct 1942
    [Nov 1942]
    [Dec 1942]
    Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
    Registration district: Durham Northern
    Inferred County: Durham
    Volume: 10a
    Page: 513

    Looks as though he died on the 24th according to:
    England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1995
    Name: Ian Gordon Ackroyd Bowman
    Death Date: 24 Dec 1942
    Death Place: Durham, England
    Probate Date: 7 Apr 1943
    Probate Registry: Llandudno

    Medal Card of Bowman, Ian Gordon Ackroyd Place of Birth: Edinburgh Date of... | The National Archives


    1939 England and Wales Register
    Name: Gordon A Bowman
    Gender: Male
    Marital status: Married
    Birth Date: 24 Sep 1890
    Residence Year: 1939
    Address: Greenridge Chester W St
    Residence Place: Chester-le-Street, Durham, England
    Occupation: Chief Engineer Merchant Set
    Schedule Number: 17
    Sub Schedule Number: 4
    Enumeration District: FFIH
    Registration district: 554-2

    Suggest he died ashore which I think would mean no CWGC reference or MN Index cards. Be interesting to see what he died form on the death cert

    TD
     
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  6. James Harvey

    James Harvey Senior Member

    TD he may be entitled to medals as showing as still serving on the 1939 register, do we know when this was completed?
     
  7. Tony56

    Tony56 Member Patron

    He died following a months illness:
    Bowman.jpg
     
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  8. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    The 1939 Register was taken on 29 September 1939. The information was used to produce identity cards and, once rationing was introduced in January 1940, to issue ration books.

    TD

    Source: 1939 Register - The National Archives
     
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  9. Hugh MacLean

    Hugh MacLean Senior Member

    James,
    Here is an incomplete list of some of his ships

    124557 – CILICIA.

    124565 – LEUCADIA – 30.11.1914 – 31.3.1915

    124565 – LEUCADIA – 13.4.1915 – 22.8.1915

    140696 - CLAN MACMASTER – 11.1918

    146259 - CLAN MACNAUGHTON – 10.1921

    136654 - CLAN KEITH – 5.1920

    105979 - CLAN MENZIES – 11.3.1923

    141894 - CLAN MURRAY – 1926??

    Unreadable

    Unreadable

    Unreadable

    146259 - CLAN MACNAUGHTON – 28.6.1930

    129581 - CLAN URQHART – 18.2.1936

    133053 - CLAN MACEWEN – 24.12.1936

    148741 – THELMA – 13.5.1938

    133005 – CLAN MACRAE – 27.5.1938

    142741 - CLAN COLQUHOUN – 21.10.1938

    I also have a photo of him from 1918. If you need the documents just send me a pm with your email address.

    Regarding WW2 medals, there appears to be no file for him so his next of kin will need to prove his entitlement - If you need to know the process let me know?
    You will need proof of his service so you should obtain his CRS 10, this file only records information from January 1941 but crew agreements from the first ship shown in that file should give the detail to get the ships list back to 1939. His CRS 10 should be held at TNA in piece BT 382/160.
    When you have the list of ships for medal entitlement then you need to get the movement cards also from TNA but you can obtain them online. The CRS 10 will need to be obtained by visit to Kew or via a researcher. You should firstly contact the RSS in Cardiff to be 100% sure that they do not have his medal file.

    Regards
    Hugh
     
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  10. James Harvey

    James Harvey Senior Member

    Thanks guys

    I work for the MCA so will drop Cardiff a email
     

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