How many troops in a British Armoured Brigade in 1941?

Discussion in 'Higher Formations' started by RemeDesertRat, Apr 22, 2013.

  1. RemeDesertRat

    RemeDesertRat Very Senior Member

    Looking at convoy WS10X which took my Dad (RAOC) to Egypt in Aug. 1941, its often said that it took 22nd AB to Suez, with no mention of other formations, 3 troopships were in the convoy carrying aprox. 10, 000 troops.

    My question is, did these 10, 000 troops constitute the full compliment of an Armoured Brigade?
     
  2. Andreas

    Andreas Working on two books

    It's far more. A regiment had about 550 men. So between three regiments that gives you 1,650. Add an HQ and Brigade elements, maybe another 1-2,000, given that the Brigade did not have an organic motor battalion or artillery. So the 10,000 would comprise further units.

    All the best

    Andreas
     
  3. RemeDesertRat

    RemeDesertRat Very Senior Member

    Thanks for that, wonder what other units went, they never seem to get a mention.
     
  4. ClankyPencil

    ClankyPencil Senior Member

  5. RemeDesertRat

    RemeDesertRat Very Senior Member

    Thats a great resource Clanky will bookmark it and study it in more detail later in the week, Thanks
     
  6. ClankyPencil

    ClankyPencil Senior Member

  7. Tom Canning

    Tom Canning WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    Clanky -
    There is a great tendency to look on the establishments of various formations as being gospel - but this is not usually the case in wartime as much extra equipment - and even personnel are somehow "added " to the strength of some

    units - depending on needs etc... so a good rule of thumb therefore would be an Armoured - and Assault Bde would be around 2,500 personnel - and an Infantry Bde would be just a bit more at 2700 - 3000 personnel - and it could be

    guaranteed that when the Inspector was announced to visit - the EXTRAS would be hidden away in the next village - and a big fat lunch was organised to ensure a favourable report - we weren't called old sweats for nothing as a simple

    example while awaiting demob some of us were detailed - along with many young soldiers - to dig out a snowbound train at Kirkby Stephen - so we quickly and efficiently packed a pick up with extra clothing - extra food - vacuums of tea - little

    bottle of rum etc - drove the 30 miles - and guess what - we had somehow forgotten the shovels .....! The inspectors were also old sweats and very careful to announce the date and time of their visits... didn't pay to be stupid !

    Cheers
     
  8. Smudger Jnr

    Smudger Jnr Our Man in Berlin

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