How many tanks went to France, were lost in France and made it back????? When I read Ellis' official history a few years back I sensed that something wasn't quite right with his numbers. But with nothing to hand to cross-check or challenge those numbers, I let it pass. Now I have the benefit of a significant quantity of unit WDs and other documents from the PRO and, being at a bit of a loose end this morning, I thought I'd run through what I have on the matter. The first thing I picked through was Peter Brown's work in Military Modelling and he's a cunning bugger, isn't he? In various places he notes what others have recorded without actually pinning his flag to any mast. At one point (part 4 of his A13 story) he highlights the discrepancies within 1st Armoured Division by the various offerings without, regrettably, offering any analysis of his own on the matter. I'm currently plodding through the various data going through a myriad of mathmatical calculations and, so far, have come up with a quite different story to all that's gone before. The numbers for infantry tanks seem to be boxed away and not disputed. The numbers for light tanks gets a bit fuzzy here and there. The cruiser tank situation ought to be simple, but seems to cause the most confusion. It all seems to be down to rather lax record keeping at the time - especially within AFV Branch at the War Office. I've noticed a similar lack of accuracy and care in the admin keeping of AFV Branch in GHQ ME. It seems tankies and donkey wallopers didn't like paperwork! Has anybody else ever worked through this puzzle and come up with an answer? I suspect nobody will ever now be able to claim a definitive answer, but it would be nice to somehow reach a credible consensus. Any thoughts or comments on this?