Dead, I think you could be right about this. Once the Soviets began their offensive the Germans realised quickly how much they had underestimated the both the size of the Soviet Army and the will of the nation to resist the attack. Stalin made a smart move by using the term "Mother Russia" at every instance and he wasnt lying. No matter what his intention was, the fact remained that the Soviet Union was to be wiped out and it wasnt just politically motivated, it was obviously racially motivated too. James//Tom, great posts in relation to the German Equipment, but I'm curious, did the German armor use a different fuel to Soviet Armor? Did the T-34 use a Diesel Engine and the Germans use Petrol, and would this have a bearing in the conditions prevalent in Winter 1941? By the way, its a pleasure to see such a well mannered thread and kudos to you all for keeping it that way!!