"Honey tank" - Turret-less or otherwise.

Discussion in 'Weapons, Technology & Equipment' started by 51highland, Aug 9, 2006.

  1. Ron Goldstein

    Ron Goldstein WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    Adam

    Thinking about it now, I don't think there could have been any vestige left of the original turret ring and I'm now positive that the turret area was completely clear, not unlike the Bren Gun carrier to which we eventually transferred.

    Warlord
    Thanks for that, what an ugly brute that one was :)
     
  2. Warlord

    Warlord Veteran wannabe

    You´re welcome.

    By the way, the cupola served to keep grenades out; wonder if that made the crew feel any safer, with so much lead flying around...:sign_omg:
     
  3. Ron Goldstein

    Ron Goldstein WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    Only while I am still trying to remember what the Honey looked like :)

    For a very "light-weight" tank we were pretty well stocked with fire power.

    Fixed to the starboard side (looking forward) was a 2" Mortar.
    Fixed to the rear was a .50 Browning machine gun on a swivel mount (strictly reserved for anti-aircraft)
    Fixed to the front was a .30 Browning that I was only to use on one occasion.
    All the crew wore personal sidearms, in my case a Smith & Wesson.
    Stowed away we had 1 Thomson Sub-Machine Gun, a box of hand grenades, very light cartidges, phosphorous shells and lots of Browning Ammo.

    Plus a reasonable supply of toilet paper :)
     
  4. machine shop tom

    machine shop tom Senior Member

    I have a tattered copy of Brazen Chariots by Robert Crisp. It is an interesting account of desert desert tank warfare from the point of view of a British Honey tank commander during November - December 1941.

    It's worth a read if not for anything else but the story behind the silk pajamas....


    tom
     
  5. Warlord

    Warlord Veteran wannabe

    Does anyone know if there´s somewhere a copy of Brazen Chariots online? Sorry to ask, but it´s a real pain to get good war books down here in my good ´ol Guatemala... :banghead:
     
  6. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    Many very cheap copies ($1) on the US abebooks warlord. Don't know what the postage, though the shipping to Guatemala seems to be about 9 times the price of the book.
     
  7. Warlord

    Warlord Veteran wannabe

    Any www address?
     
  8. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

  9. Warlord

    Warlord Veteran wannabe

    That was a quick answer, VP. Thanks.
     
  10. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

    Another rather nice photo from 4th Indian Division History.


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    Can anyone add anything about the stolen sign?

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  11. Ron Goldstein

    Ron Goldstein WW2 Veteran WW2 Veteran

    Owen

    Thanks for the pic

    Ron
     
  12. Smudger Jnr

    Smudger Jnr Our Man in Berlin

    The Stuart M5 is my favourite light tank of WW2. I have a 1:6 scale model with R/C and sound. The diesel engine start up and tickover is pretty realistic.

    There is a book on the market just for modelling the M3/5 Stuart light tank.

    Modelling the M3/5 Stuart Light tank. Osprey Publishing.
    ISBN 13:9781841767635.

    If you Google Stuart Light Tank, there are some excellent photos from WW2 and newly restored versions.

    I once hit a French web site with wonderful pictures of the M5 in action with the French Armour Divisions.

    I too like AFV's.

    Tom
    Regards
     
  13. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    I have that book :unsure:.

    Who's your 1/6th Stuart by Tom?
    I'm jealous now.
     
  14. Smudger Jnr

    Smudger Jnr Our Man in Berlin

    No need to be Jealous.

    It is a rare (these days) 20th century models from the USA. You just cannot seem to be able to get hold of them these days in Europe, but I believe that there are still one or two out there in the US.

    I attended a model exhibition in Berlin a couple of years ago and saw a wonderful Military display of R/C Tanks in several scales, mostly 1:16.

    I have a garden railway hobby, but the large scale really attracted my attention and as I searched the web found a large amount 1:6 Military model groups, mainly in America, but a wonderful one in the UK which models German WW2, where members have constructed 1:6 scale Tanks and Locomotives. There is also one of their members who is obviously a professional photographer and the pictures of simulated battle scenes are very convincing.

    I used to have a large collection of 1/72 scale WW2 Corgi Die cast planes, but needed the money to finance the purchase of an all metal 1:6 scale SdKfz 251 Half track (almost a meter long). It looks really nice.

    Send me a PM and I will get back to you with more details as i realise that this is not a model forum.

    Regards

    Tom
     
  15. Owen

    Owen -- --- -.. MOD

  16. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    Metal halftrack?
    If it's the one I'm thinking of then I am impressed, and the train/action men site is familiar to me ;).

    To drag things back to specifically the Stuart though, here's an RC one that attends The Victory Show:
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    And a rather nicely preserved '1:1' scale machine that was parked nearby, which perhaps looks more like a model than a real one in this shot:
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    Cheers,
    Adam.
     
  17. Warlord

    Warlord Veteran wannabe

    Cool models!
     
  18. Slipdigit

    Slipdigit Old Hickory Recon

    What is the purpose of the canvas on the gun?
     
  19. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    Just a weather cover for sights and other apertures Jeff, we could speculate on whether it also worked as an early cooling shroud to prevent warping in extreme heat/cold as seen on later types but I suspect that might be pushing it regarding a 37mm in Europe :D.
     
  20. Bodston

    Bodston Little Willy

    The septics used turretless Stuarts in Normandy too
    Known as T8E1 Recconnaissance vehicles

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    and another British Stuart recce in Arrezzo, Italy July 1944

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