HMS Tamar

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  1. Mavis Williams

    Mavis Williams Well-Known Member

    Hi Experts, I am researching a Serviceman -
    Stoker 1st Class
    TURNER, WILLIAM ARTHUR
    Service Number P/KX 109310
    Died 02/10/1942
    Aged 22
    H.M.S. "Tamar" Royal Navy
    Son of Joseph and Clara Turner, of Shotton, Flintshire.
    and I know that HMS Tamar was a Shore base and he was captured, but he was a Stoker, 1st Class, so wouldn't he have been on a ship? Any help would be appreciated. Many thanks in advance, Mavis Williams
     
  2. Tricky Dicky

    Tricky Dicky Don'tre member

    Royal Navy killed and died in World War 2, by Name - Thorn to Tyte
    TURNER, William A, Stoker 1c, P/KX 109310, (Lisbon Maru), Japanese steamship,(Tamar) as POW, 2 October 1942, MPK

    MPK = Missing Presumed Killed

    Royal Navy casualties, killed and died, October 1942
    (Lisbon Maru), Japanese steamship carrying POWs, sunk by US submarine Grouper off Shanghai, many died, but others escaped, some of whom died over the succeeding weeks
    TURNER, William A, Stoker 1c, P/KX 109310, (Tamar), MPK

    UK, British Army and Navy Birth, Marriage and Death Records, 1730-1960
    Name: William Arthur Turner
    Event: Death
    Birth Date: 12 Jul 1920
    Birth Place: Shotton, Flintshire
    Death Date: 2 Oct 1942
    Death Age: 22
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    It would appear he was taken prisoner whilst based at Tamar and was being transported as a POW on the Lisbon Maru - Lisbon Maru - Wikipedia which was where he died

    TD
     
  3. timuk

    timuk Well-Known Member

    Although the naval base and dockyard in Hong Kong was collectively known as HMS Tamar there actually was a ship called HMS Tamar. An ancient RN Troopship used in Hong Kong as the depot ship. She was scuttled just off Wan Chai on 18 Dec 41.
    As far as William Turner is concerned it may be he was serving on one of the smaller ships, MTBs etc which would have used Tamar as their Accounting Base. Obtaining his Service Records may well help as they often show where he was serving in brackets after HMS Tamar.
    Following links will be of interest:
    STU Database
    Hong Kong War Diary
    Tim
     
  4. Mavis Williams

    Mavis Williams Well-Known Member

    Thank you TD, so very knowledgeable again! It is clearer now, thank you. Much appreciated. Regards, Mavis
     
  5. Mavis Williams

    Mavis Williams Well-Known Member

    Thank you Tiim, sorry, I hadn't refreshed the page, didn't see your reply, so was very pleased to see you had responded as well, so knowledgeable again! Regards, Mavis
     
  6. James S

    James S Very Senior Member

  7. Mavis Williams

    Mavis Williams Well-Known Member

    Thank you Jim for taking the trouble to write to me, I will certainly look at these publications and websites, so sad about your Uncle. Kindest regards, Mavis
     

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