HMS Mercury found

Discussion in 'The War at Sea' started by Red Goblin, Sep 2, 2021.

  1. Red Goblin

    Red Goblin Senior Member

    Posted today on Three Towns Forum - "SCIENTISTS at Bangor University have helped identify a shipwreck in the middle of the Southern Irish Sea, previously thought to be that of a submarine, as the minesweeper, HMS Mercury." &c but with no public source link so ...

    3 of our older threads are also tagged 'hms mercury' but none really begging this news - hence this new one. Nor can I seem to find anything about it on Bangor Uni's website so I'll just offer any bone-pickers my webwide search currently yielding ~200 matches including this news - "minesweeper" "HMS Mercury" at DuckDuckGo.


    PS: Just added x-ref links to our 3 aforesaid threads.
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  2. ucs001

    ucs001 New Member

    Hope this helps, I led the scientific surveys of all these vessels:
    Discovery of the minesweeper HMS MERCURY
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  3. Red Goblin

    Red Goblin Senior Member

    Yes indeed, welcome on board and thanks, RJR (?) - I should have twigged to CAMS involvement but try not to jump to conclusions. Solid info is always welcome but I'm now suspecting your webmaster of perversely hiding such announcements from search engines with a 'no robots' policy?

    FTR, I first became aware of CAMS for their hi-res sonar enhancement work for Coflein, back in 2015 when I was trying to pinpoint Wellington Z1172's exact seabed location off Anglesey's North Stack for fellow forum member Archivist though we never did resolve the discrepancy then in Coflein's NMRW mapping ...
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  4. ucs001

    ucs001 New Member

    Hi, sorry I have no clue wrt webmaster settings etc but I'm certainly keen to engage wherever possible with anyone interested in examining the offshore environment for archaeological purposes, the challenge I guess is trying to meet this whilst not being paid to be a 'service provider' as such... but we'll try. I have access to a large high-res MBES data setfrom the area off Holyhead and am happy to look at this wrt what you specify.....can't promise anything though...but if I do notice anything I'll certainly be happy to share/discuss further.....:)
  5. Red Goblin

    Red Goblin Senior Member

    Well, FWIW as Off Topic here, the correct thread for that particular can of worms is Unidentified Grave | WW2Talk but I bowed out around p7 and, not wanting to be drawn back in, see it now runs to 9pp and so may have since been solved for all I yet know. But, in a nutshell, I was last stuck trying to figure out the point of surface impact fully expecting underwater drift towards somewhere shallow enough for local divers to have retrieved one of its 2 distinctive props. My idea was to best approximate where the subject casualty began his solo eastward drift towards where he beached to be found (at Blackpool IIRC) rather than where I inexpertly expected longshore drift to have taken him instead.

    At the time, I was fruitlessly angling to eyeball enough of the copyrighted sonar imagery to save wasting CAMS staff time on searching without my southpaw 3D familiarity of Wimpy form even though Z1172's alloy geodesic fuselage would have most likely remained intact and unsquashed with its surface-collided wing merely bent abaft in the low-speed circumstances to thus approximate a 'T' shape as probably the first thing to seek. My main problem with Coflein's data - again IIRC - was that it plotted Z1172 far too deep for the aforesaid scuba divers to have safely reached it as they apparently did with no anti-bends press hype. And "good luck to all who sail in her !"

    PS: Just reread that 'grave' thread and see it's been repaginated with only 6 inconclusive posts added in 2018. But, most notably, just to admit misremembering S Stack as N Stack - the scene of a Liberator crash more famous through actually hitting the stack.
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