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Hitler's Biggest Mistake

Discussion in 'General' started by paulyb102, Feb 14, 2005.

  1. guaporense

    guaporense Member

    These two problems were caused by the failure of Barbarossa : I should say it was the opposite: Barbarossa was failed(AMONG others ) by the lack of manpower and oil

    Sure, everything is related two ways: Failure of barbarossa caused the eastern front, with sucked up all manpower and oil that germany had. Failure of barbarossa was caused by lack of manpower and oil.:D
     
  2. guaporense

    guaporense Member

    maybe a proof that without Hitler,Germany could have won ?

    Their war effort would be more efficient. You should note that during the course of the war Hitler started to micromanage even more and more aspects of the war.

    While Hitler may be an excuse for every German defeat in ww2. I think that the importance of his lack of strategic vision was sure an very important factor in the outcome of the war, right up with manpower and oil.

    However, the most important factor in the outcome was the immense allied effort, without historical precedent. Why? Based on available information until 1942, Germany's strategic decisions were sound. They lost the war for a quite exceptional historical factor: the fighting power of the red army. In other words: I think that, based on information available in 1941, they should never lost the war.

    Nobody expected before barbarossa that the russian army would be able to inflict 5 times more casualties on the wehrmacht on that single operation than the British and French armies inflicted in 1940, when they were almost annihilated (800.000 vs 160.000). In other words: The soviet union proved to be a much more formidable enemy than the western countries. One thing that nobody in the western word expected, and still fails to compreend, as they speak of the red army as an horde of untrained peasants. To explain why 12 million of soviet soldiers died, compared to the ~600.000 british and american soldiers in the western fronts, if you want to follow the popular vesion of the story, them you must rationalize it as menaning that the red army was extremely weak on a per man basis. The fact is that they lost 20 times more men mainly because they killed 10 times more germans and because they were in a unfavorable strategic position and could not afford to not sacrifice soldiers + didn't have air superiority + were more agressive in using infantry on offensive operations. All these 4 reasons are connected: without air superiority, offensive operations suffer more casualties, in a bad strategic position (as in 1942) they had to put men in the front without adequate organization, so they need to sacrifice manpower, and to revert this bad strategic position they needed to attack.
     
  3. Sloniksp

    Sloniksp Junior Member

    Their war effort would be more efficient. You should note that during the course of the war Hitler started to micromanage even more and more aspects of the war.


    It seems Friedrich H has touched up on this issues quite will in post #5 ;) Friedrich H
     

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