Hitler Escaped

Discussion in 'Books, Films, TV, Radio' started by Gage, Aug 29, 2011.

  1. phylo_roadking

    phylo_roadking Very Senior Member

    That makes good buisness sense to me so who cares where he goes to sell it if it sells.


    Well - apart from attempting to market a book on Hitler surviving the war on Stormfront is a bit like giving matches to arsonists, or the key to the orphange to the top-ranking name on the Sex Offenders' Register...

    Have you ever written a book? If you had would you not try and advertise it and sell it?


    Less a book, more a magazine - and yes I/we had to work hard at flogging it; let me be clear, I have no problems with Gerrard trying to sell it....the problem is he threw his toys out of the pram when I pointed out this WAS what he was trying to do! Then a day later he appeared on Sky News trying to do the exact same thing, market his book.

    If you're a salesman, you're a salesman - you can't throw your toys out of the pram when people realise this ;)
     
  2. Za Rodinu

    Za Rodinu Hot air manufacturer

    Have you ever written a book? If you had would you not try and advertise it and sell it? That makes good buisness sense to me so who cares where he goes to sell it if it sells. If you don't get that then you don't get the concept of buisness and making money.

    If that's what it is why not come clean about it? "I've written this book on [whatever] and I'm trying to promote it in order to maximise its sales". It's perfectly natural, it's capitalism working and we all need to eke out a living. Trouble is that writing a book is one thing, writing history is a specialised pigeon-hole at book writing, requirements are different and here I am boldly assuming that those who write History (with a capital) are all honest, impartial and disinterested - which is not always the case.

    Suppose Za writes a book. Say, the subject is how Tony Blair was the greatest statesman the UK, ever had, the man never departed from the truth, was unfailingly brilliant, etc. And I wrote 600 pages explaining exactly why, lots of photoshopped pictures, including him winning the World Cup by himself, etc, etc, sitting on a pile of Iraqi nuclear bombs discovered by self, etc,etc. Lots of family detail, interviews to former girlfriends - who would still adore him, tearful eye; how he doted on his daughters, bla bla bla, in order to attract "that" public segment.

    It would all be a tremendous amout of bullshit.

    But.

    But Za had written a book.
     
  3. Drew5233

    Drew5233 #FuturePilot 1940 Obsessive

    Well - apart from attempting to market a book on Hitler surviving the war on Stormfront is a bit like giving matches to arsonists, or the key to the orphange to the top-ranking name on the Sex Offenders' Register...



    Less a book, more a magazine - and yes I/we had to work hard at flogging it; let me be clear, I have no problems with Gerrard trying to sell it....the problem is he threw his toys out of the pram when I pointed out this WAS what he was trying to do! Then a day later he appeared on Sky News trying to do the exact same thing, market his book.

    If you're a salesman, you're a salesman - you can't throw your toys out of the pram when people realise this ;)

    Says the man who cuts and pastes from one forum to another passing the info off as your own - :lol:
     
  4. dbf

    dbf Moderatrix MOD

    Suppose Za writes a book. Say, the subject is how Tony Blair was the greatest statesman the UK, ever had, the man never departed from the truth, was unfailingly brilliant, etc.

    While we're in the realms of what-ifs. ;)

    Za if you ever did that I'd have to say: Adeus.

    [​IMG]

    However, if I was inclined to dissect your every word and shred your reputation, I'd do you the wholly undeserved honour of buying/borrowing your fiction and reading it ... and then probably use it to boost to the central heating. If I couldn't be bothered reading it, I'd just not comment and let it plummet from the just published list - as they say: there's no such thing as bad publicity. :rolleyes:

    I think most of us have got the point on the very first page of the very first thread. I'm off to do Something Less Boring Instead.
     
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  5. phylo_roadking

    phylo_roadking Very Senior Member

    Says the man who cuts and pastes from one forum to another passing the info off as your own


    Andy, if you want to address that, feel free...but that's not what's being addressed here.

    On the actual subject matter of Williams' book - I happen to know quite a bit about the subject and have my own opinions on whether or not Hitler survived...but those opinions start at the Bunker and not in South America and working backwards to Berlin. The reason I'm not specifically addressing the content of Grey Wolf is very simple...I'm not putting my money in his pocket, so I have to wait until I can get a library copy.

    When I have my hands on that - then the job done will be VERY specific and detailed. In the meantime - I have all I need to see to know that Williams is leaving a trail of unanswered questions behind him, a lot of smart-ass comments, and a trail of thrown toys.

    To me, that's doing a bad job of selling your book. And THAT's what I'm commenting on. When an author comes on to public forums to do this - then there's a way he has to behave to retain respect for his product, and in this he's no better than Fred Leander and ALL the reasons why his way of doing things was objected to, here and elsewhere.
     
  6. Za Rodinu

    Za Rodinu Hot air manufacturer

    Za if you ever did that I'd have to say: Adeus.

    So that's how you'd treat an Author! Philistine! :lol:

    there's no such thing as bad publicity. :rolleyes:

    Supremely wise words.
     
  7. phylo_roadking

    phylo_roadking Very Senior Member

    ...tho' ones an ex-Minister for Defence might not necessarily agree with...
     
  8. James S

    James S Very Senior Member

    Gentlemen , cool it down a little no sense in someone trying for their first serious CVA on this one.

    Not for me this one instead my pennies went on a book on Heydrich (see below).
    http://www.ww2talk.com/forum/books-films-tv-radio/17712-what-you-reading-moment-187.html#post442473 (Which so far reads very well).
    and a book on the Luftwaffe raids "The Luftwaffe's Blitz: The Inside Story November 1940-May 1941" By Chris Goss.
    The Luftwaffe's Blitz: The Inside Story November 1940-May 1941: Amazon.co.uk: Chris Goss: Books

    For what it is worth I go with the idea that Adolf blew his brains out in Berlin in 1945, with a man who had so many doubles it could perhaps have been one of them who flew to Denmark.
     
  9. Goodygixxer

    Goodygixxer Senior Member

    Theres an article about Hitler fleeing to Argentina in todays Sun newspaper page 24/25
     
  10. PsyWar.Org

    PsyWar.Org Archive monkey

    I'm just surprised the Daily Mail hasn't mentioned it yet. They've always been rather keen on Nazi stories.
     
  11. Za Rodinu

    Za Rodinu Hot air manufacturer

    The Sun? Yes, the online Sun also carries today a story about a man with giant testicles. This man may not be Hitler, as this apparently had only one ball.
     
  12. PsyWar.Org

    PsyWar.Org Archive monkey

    The Sun? Yes, the online Sun also carries today a story about a man with giant testicles. This man may not be Hitler, as this apparently had only one ball.

    Which begs the question if he had only one ball and considering his age and state of his health, how on earth did he manage to father two daughters in Argentina after the war?

    I suspect Eva was cheating on him with Lord Lucan. :wacko:
     
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  13. James S

    James S Very Senior Member

    PsyWar.Org
    I suspect Eva was cheating on him with Lord Lucan.
    I suspect MB..........

    Bormann lost the plot one day in the early 1950's and shouted " Adolf.......I'M THE DADDY !!" :D
     
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  14. projectgreywolf

    projectgreywolf Junior Member

    Why won't Phylo Roadking identify himself? He appears on so many forums, but just won't say who he is. I'd be quite happy to have a conversation with him.
    Gerrard Williams
    (also known as projectgreywolf)
     
  15. projectgreywolf

    projectgreywolf Junior Member

    Phylo Roadking is worth googling

    Gerrard williams

    (also known as Project Grey Wolf)
     
  16. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    It ain't obligatory mate. Never has been, and we all know large sections of the Internerd wouldn't really work if it was.
    Handful of people on here know who I really am (and I have photos of many of them which buys their silence ;) ), doesn't seem to matter that much.

    Gerrard, I've got to ask - why stormfrxnt mate?
    I try and be generally neutral about books like yours, among other things, I'm not overly intrigued by much outside the world of Tanks, but what would make you pop up there chap?
    I appreciate the wider freedom of speech issues etc., but surely even the slightest association there can only lend ammunition to the flame-war you must have thought possible from your book? I'm just curious, and don't for an instant think you're a neo, but do think it's an odd choice of arena if you want to be taken seriously - sort of dangerous stuff.

    (For what it's worth... I may actually have to read your book now, out of a sort of curiosity - who reads the audio version?)

    ~A
     
  17. Za Rodinu

    Za Rodinu Hot air manufacturer

    Which begs the question if he had only one ball and considering his age and state of his health, how on earth did he manage to father two daughters in Argentina after the war?

    I suspect Eva was cheating on him with Lord Lucan. :wacko:

    Lord Lucan? Yuck, poor Eva! As for the two daughters question, if the Gröfaz had a full set he would have four daughters, no?
     
  18. PsyWar.Org

    PsyWar.Org Archive monkey

  19. Goodygixxer

    Goodygixxer Senior Member

    Maybe Phylo Roadking is Hitler!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  20. Za Rodinu

    Za Rodinu Hot air manufacturer

    No, Elvis.
     

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