I have read this thread with interest. When I first heard about this book I went to the Amazon site and looked at the amazing number of very good reviews. I post ebooks to Amazon myself and know it is hard to get reviews, unless you enlist all your friends. But there was one review that stuck with me. It asked very credible questions that have, to my mind anyway, not been answered so far. Logic tells us that the more people who are 'in' on a secret, the harder that secret is to keep, especially over time. Nowhere have the authors managed to explain how so many people, who must have come in contact with the escaping Hitler and the post-war Hitler, kept quiet. You must assume that some of them fell on hard times after the war, some must have told family members...and they all kept quiet and didn't report or sell their story? Imagine how the Simon Wiesenthal Centre would have reacted, had they got a sniff of this story! My Dad flew Spitfires in the war, in England and the Middle East. He died at the age of 74 in 1992. He survived 40 sorties over France, then he was flying air cover over some pretty nasty land battles in Crete etc. He would have been devastated to think Hitler survived when so many of his brave friends did not. Provide some REAL proof and answer this prefectly logical question, how did so many keep silent for so long? And why did they? Cheers
For these reasons I placed my own " review" of the book , I have not read it and nor I suspect have any of those who "reviewed" it. Based on the "proofs" so far disclosed on various forums it does appear to be a work of fiction, self delusion and (or) speculation.... difficult to take seriously.
James, Gerrard doesn't appreciate your input... Amazon.com: R. C. J. Stewart "Buy 2many books"'s review of Grey Wolf: The Escape of Adolf Hitler
That may be but until some degree of evidence is provided who in their right mind will take this seriously ?
O yes, the AHF thread HAS been reopened! ....AND closed again already after Gerrard made more than a few intemperate comments at posters including myself. And my only post since the thread was reopened was to remark that he obviously didn't come onto AHF with anything else in mind after a years absence than to advertise his book (and I checked his posts)...and he melted down... Phylo," I am happy to discuss many aspects of WW2. I have offered to share my research here. I'm not happy about people who hide behind pseudonyms, have opinions on things they haven't read, and spout their vitriol on many forums. I have a view, and it is simply this. Come and have a go if you think you've read enough. .....How you can type one-handed is quite amazing. Gerrard - given that you came on to AHF to advertise your book, and came here to advertise your book...do you think that calling someone a w**nker, and telling another poster who had serious concerns - You are a very sad figure mate. .....is behaviour that's going to persuade ANYONE to buy your book? Answering some of the many questions left unanswered in your wake might have stood a chance of rescuing something from the debacle there....but not now.... It's set in amber there now...
I can't help thinking that Grey Wolf Media's corporate address is more than apt.... Grey Wolf - The Escape of Adolf Hitler 30 Turkey Court, Turkey Mill, Ashford Road, Maidstone, Kent ME14 5PP I severely doubt that was intentional But if it walks like a turkey, and gobbles like a turkey, chances are...
Unfortunately, the AHF thread was closed one post too early... I was in the process of typing that...seeing as Gerrard took such umbrage of being "accused" of coming back to AHF JUST to advertise/market his book..... ...he COULD of course prove me wrong by simply donating all his profits to charity (after independent auditing, of course - can't help but remember Paul Harker's claim that three dollars from every sale of his rubbish was donated to an independent charity that looked after war graves in Europe!)... How about it, Gerrard??? You went off on such a wobbler on AHF at my suggestion that you were only there out of crass commercialism to sell your book that you could EASILY prove me wrong by waiving any profit from Grey Wolf. By all means - recompense yourself and Simon for any costs and expenses accrued in the last few years of research and globetrotting.... But if you object so much at the thought of people realising you're here to actually sell your book, to make your wad - why not do something wonderful with the profits instead? I'll not hold my breath...
Easy chaps, dull stuff. Can we stay on the book, and ditch the bald abuse. I couldn't care less if someone's marketing a book with a WW2 theme here, but anybody doing so (or not) is obviously open to comment on that book, adverse or otherwise. Controversial topic - so naturally some controversy is expected, but not necessarily the bleedin' handbaggery. Crack on with the Adolf fleeing (or not) stuff, fill yer boots, but maybe lay off the personalised shit a tad if you want to be taken seriously. And I still vote for Minehead as the most likely location. ~A
Gerrard, I must say one thing has struck me as I read your extract online. I'm pretty surprised by some of the points you make and how you back them up. 1. FBI Files on Hitler sitings - of course they kept these, beaurocracy has an obsession with keeping things in order and any report would receive even a cursory examination and being filed. Most likely for archival purposes... this is very common, and is certainly overly sensational in the text. 2. Your use of language regarding the incident goes from sensational to rolling off into a sludge of weak language, "we believe", that is hardly grabbing me that you are really nailing this all up with fact beneath it. Frankly the rest of that chapter read relatively well, and was then undermined heavily with such weak assertions of what you have allegedly uncovered. 3. Your account of what happened to HMS Petard is factually grey, even listing Thomas Brown as an able seamen... its this sort of sloppy writing which stands out a mile off. 4. The extract as a whole brings nothing new into the open. Nothing. I mean you've effectively picked and chosen what items from a variety of published works you want to include to boost your word count. Frankly I see this as misleading and all a bit ridiculous as it really offers very little backing to the rest of your text, especially when much of it veers into populist drivel. Thus far all any of us have objectively seen is a few very wild accusations by yourself and frankly petty internet sniping. From someone who is meant to be respected as yourself this is very disappointing and offers more fire to the suggestion that this is all an attempt to try and enjoy a few weekends a year in Argentina playing a 'Boys Own' investigator.
Time to consign this rubbish to the dustbin of historical fantasy... But before we all move on, a friend mentioned one last exclusive piece of evidence to consider, based on the testimony of an Argentinian immigration officer in 1945. Official: "Excuse senor, full name, favor?" Doctor friend of new arrival: "Don't tell him Adolf!!!" Sorry guys, couldn't resist!
I wonder just how much of all this is cribbed from the old Hitler Of The Andes documentary from 2003 in the Ch4 "Secret History" series? Hitler of the Andes (TV 2003) - IMDb http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secret_History_(TV_series) 4. The extract as a whole brings nothing new into the open. Nothing. I mean you've effectively picked and chosen what items from a variety of published works you want to include to boost your word count. Frankly I see this as misleading and all a bit ridiculous as it really offers very little backing to the rest of your text, especially when much of it veers into populist drivel. Well, this is the problem, isn't it? And it's a recognised problem...hell, the Germans even suffered from it during WWII - FORTITUDE was predicated on it! When you're testing a hypothesis - you're supposed to look at ALL the evidence, not just that which supports it. Same with intelligence analysis - you're supposed to evaluate ALL the evidence regarding a particular proposition, not just look for indicators confirm it's correct. You're not really supposed to have a preconception at all - you're supposed to build conclusions, good or bad, from the evidence. "Beppo" Schmit did this in 1940 during the BoB....and Hitler et al did it themsevles a month earlier, when choosing to interpret various bits of intelligence as showing that their June-early July 1940 psi-war ops against the UK were working....and ignoring everything else that should have told them they weren't! (Peter Fleming covers this in two full chapters of Operation Sealion)... ....and of course, through late 1943 into 1944, the Germans interpreted everything they saw....or were shown ...as confirming their idea that the invasion of Europe would come at the Pas De Calais. Everything was measured against that preconception. In other words - when you have a proposition in mind - you shouldn't let any and all evidence on the subject be analysed for items that agree with the proposition; you HAVE to take on board the pros AND the cons. And from everything I've read, I'm not sure if this has been done here. One typical example leaps to mind, the U.S. intelligence report concerning Hitler in a South American casino; if you accept in advance that Hitler WAS in South America, then this item "of course" is correct There becomes no question over it's reliability...the preconception confirms it as reliable, not any actual checkable evidence therein.
Controversial topic - so naturally some controversy is expected, but not necessarily the bleedin' handbaggery. Like this?
I was doing a little Googling this afternoon....and found somewhere else that Gerrard Williams went to drum up some sales....!!! Grey Wolf - The escape of Adolf Hitler - Stoxfrxnt
Edited to a more thoughtful response. He's come on here in good faith to sell a book that he's written and all most of you have done is tear it to pieces and you haven't even read it, that sounds a bit hypocritical to me. Atleast Lee has gone to the trouble to buy a copy before passing comment (good or bad). Have you ever written a book? If you had would you not try and advertise it and sell it? That makes good buisness sense to me so who cares where he goes to sell it if it sells. If you don't get that then you don't get the concept of buisness and making money. As far as the content of the book goes, I'm in the neutral corner, I have no interest in the subject matter in anyway shape or form. I'm just happy that he's dead, unless his 122. Either way I would at least have the decency to read his book before I rubbished it if I had such a strong opinion on the subject matter. If by some chance you did write a book wouldn't you want a fair hearing and for someone to have actually read it before they passed comment on it? Didn't Charles Darwin's book on evolution fair the same way a few hundred years ago when it was first published?
