Hitler Escaped

Discussion in 'Books, Films, TV, Radio' started by Gage, Aug 29, 2011.

  1. Roger Clark

    Roger Clark Junior Member

    Swiper .. You make a great point in jest! One person who worked on the film and saw the extraordinary things that were going on behind the scenes told me it would have been far better to have made a documentary about Gerrard Williams' obsession about Hitler in Argentina - and his strange behaviour while making his film!
     
  2. phylo_roadking

    phylo_roadking Very Senior Member

  3. phylo_roadking

    phylo_roadking Very Senior Member

    Indeed! Knowing the said details, one can't help wondering...


    ....how many of them were paid THIS time....! :rolleyes:
     
  4. Roger Clark

    Roger Clark Junior Member

    "GREY WOLF" producer MAGNUS PETERSON gets 13 years jail for fraud

    According to the U.K.s Serious Fraud Office the Swedish financier Magnus Peterson was sentenced to 13 years in jail on Friday 23 January 2015. This follows his earlier conviction for fraud after the collapse of his hedge fund. If you look at earlier posts on this site you'll see Peterson was the producer of the film "Grey Wolf - the escape of Adolf Hitler" based on the controversial book by Gerrard Williams and Simon Dunstan.

    There are no reports of the film being mentioned in the court proceedings. Those dealt with Peterson's now defunct hedge fund Weavering Macro Fixed Income Fund. He was sentenced to 13 years imprisonment after he was found guilty of eight counts of fraud, forgery, false accounting and fraudulent trading. He was sentenced at Southwark Crown Court following six profitable years at the hedge fund. There he duped investors into ploughing $780m into the Macro Fund.

    Investors were led to believe the Macro Fund was low risk. But following the financial crash they began to ask for their money back. However, there were no assets to fund repayments.

    Throughout this period, Peterson took $5.8m in cash for himself. Sentencing the 51-year-old, Mr Justice Smith said: 'You knew the risks that cheating entailed for investors... It was entirely foreseeable that investors would lose huge amounts. Sophisticated dishonesty on this scale calls for the maximum sentence possible.'

    Jane de Lozey, the SFO s joint head of fraud, added: 'The length of sentence handed down reflects the damaging and extended nature of Mr Peterson's crime. The loss to investors was vast and was compounded by the defendant's continued deception as to the true health of their investments.'

    Although the "GREY WOLF" film failed to feature in the trial that, too, was bogus. It was based on a book that made false historical claims. Critics panned the book and major historians and institutions failed to endorse it. But Peterson still wanted his name associated with the movie. This is proudly displayed on the back cover of the DVD as you can see in this photo:-

    GREY-WOLF-003.jpg

    As I've argued on this site, and in a long review on Amazon, this movie is as dubious as Peterson's financial activities. Talk about furnishing false information.


    According to the Financial Times the 13 years in prison is 'one of the toughest punishments handed out for a high-profile fraud in the UK in recent times.'

    The film, of course, was directed by Gerrard Williams, one of the authors of the book on which the movie is based. Mr Williams is grateful for his help and writes this in the Acknowledgements in "Grey Wolf":-

    'And to Magnus Peterson--my benefactor, supporter, and convivial companion throughout the trials and tribulations of this project--go my thanks, best wishes, and undying friendship. --GERRARD WILLIAMS'

    I'm sure many people would like to know whether Magnus Peterson was a hands-on producer. Did he have any creative input into the production of the GREY WOLF movie? If so, what? Anybody out there know?

    Earlier Mr Williams directed a corporate video about Weavering Capital, Peterson's controversial company that came to grief.
     
  5. Roger Clark

    Roger Clark Junior Member

    Was Magnus Peterson a hands-on producer for the GREY WOLF film?

    Further to my report that the producer of the GREY WOLF film, Magnus Peterson, has been jailed for 13 years for fraud. Can anyone out there tell us about his role when it comes to GREY WOLF? Was Peterson a hands-on producer? Did he go to South America with the crew? Did he have anything to do with the content, shooting and editing?

    Producer's are frequently intimately involved with the details of production. Was this true of Peterson? His name is brandished all over the internet when it comes to GREY WOLF and he's obviously proud to be associated with this project. So what was he up to?

    Anybody know? Or got any contacts with people who do know? Please get in touch. A lot of people want answers.
     
  6. dbf

    dbf Moderatrix MOD

    This thread is now beyond repudiating any premise that Hitler escaped ... and as such, is off topic.

    Stick to the topic please.
     
  7. JohnS

    JohnS Senior Member

    I don't mind a good, `What If?' if it is done well. It makes me think and that is usually a good thing.Now about this book, `Grey Wolf'...I was interested in it until someone said that the book is: this could have happened. Is that true? If the authors themselves are not sure that this is true then what's the point? I'll pass. I've been hearing rumours about his escape all of my life and there are other books to read.
     
  8. Za Rodinu

    Za Rodinu Hot air manufacturer

    Can't you see the anti-Irish subliminal tone in that? Look at the clothes, it's the Black and Tans!!!
     
  9. James S

    James S Very Senior Member

    I saw some show on Tv the other night about Adolf being in South America , a series about "Alternative History", is it true did it really happen and Mr Williams pops up again going through his by now polished trust me its all true hitler didn't die "we know" he died in South America routine.
    Had to think of this thread and his early participation in it etc.
    I still think his submarine made a navigational error and turned up at Lisahally and Hitler spent the remainder of his life as a bin man in Derry and is now buried in the City cemetery. Let Mr Williams prove other wise !
     
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    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery Patron

  11. Tegan

    Tegan New Member

    Suicide Hitler proven (The Seduction)
    I found this link, it details the Dental Autopsy for Hitler, Borman, and Braun, It appears to be well sourced and detailed. It's the most complete information I've found. Multiple links within the document. Not sure if this has already been posted somewhere else.
    Suicide Hitler proven (The Seduction) | NL-Aid
     
  12. von Poop

    von Poop Adaministrator Admin

    Largely based on Bezymenski's book. (My copy is from 1968.)
    Well worth a look if Adolf's final remains have ever intrigued.
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  13. Tegan

    Tegan New Member

    New Hitler escaped story Aubrey Temples

    I thought I would bring this to the forum to see if anyone has heard this one before. I have been debating this on facebooks Hunting Hitler site. There is a short video and some answers to questions I posed. I don't find this story credible especially since he identifies Gerrard Williams as a friend and associate.




    I know you didn't mean to accuse Aubrey of consciously lying; waiting until he was 91 to make up a story...You're simply asking the reasonable question, why did he wait all these years? Well, Tom, he didn't wait. He wrote out a detailed report and gave it to the first high ranking officer he encountered following his liberation. Following the war, Aubrey was questioned about the matter by Thomas Whitfield Davidson, who, at that time, was the Chief Judge for the U.S. Federal District Court of Northern Texas. Aubrey was extensively interviewed by the FBI on the matter as well in the 1960's. Over the years Aubrey's been telling everyone who will listen, including journalists. On two occasions his account appeared in newspaper articles in the 1980's when he returned to visit the family he was assigned to work for in Nussdorf.


    For whatever reason Aubrey's liberation date is incorrect. He wasn't a POW at Moosburg at that point. Perhaps because Nussdorf was technically a satellite camp of Moosburg the records reflect that. Aubrey was liberated on May 2 in Nussdorf am Inn. What I do have is over 3 decades of cordial and appreciative communication between Aubrey and the Moser family. In Nussdorf he was assigned to work for the Moser family. The Mosers treated Aubrey very well. I have extensive evidence of Aubrey's presence in Nussdorf, and corroboration of what he saw from four significant sources: 1). William Knippschild (Author of "Footsteps in the Sand"). I had the pleasure of conducting an extensive interview with this gentleman whose life intersected with Aubrey's in 1945. 2). Hughes Day Rudd, Jr.'s account of May 2-9, 1945. Unfortunately, Hughes passed in 1992, but he was a prolific author, journalist/writer. 3). Isaac Mitchell Baker, Jr. who served as the 7th Army/36th Infantry Division's air liaison officer. Major Baker was not only involved in the liberation of Nussdorf, he was also involved in tracking down the three Fieseler Storches Aubrey saw on April 30.
    4). Statements of the Moser's (then) teenage daughters and their neighbors.

    Tom, I know you'll understand that I'm under certain restrictions about how much I can reveal in a public forum. All of the above-mentioned research, and much more, will be published this fall.

    In answer to your other questions, I hope this will suffice, for now.

    1. Hitler did not drive from Berlin to Nussdorf. Hitler's escape route included several stages. He was flown to southern Bavaria and then transferred to Bouhler's alpine estate in Nussdorf am Inn. (I wish I could give you more, because I know you'd be intrigued, Tom).
    2. I have personally advocated for Aubrey's account to be included. Their attitude is that in season three they have already moved on from the how-Hitler-escaped-from-Berlin question. Of course, I respectfully disagreed. They unwisely passed on what would have been several dynamite "TV moments", but I wish them well.
    3. On HH they did claim that the longest leg of Hitler's escape was Tonder, Denmark, and then on to Spain. In seasons 1 & 2 HH did wisely decided to base this on the research of my brilliant friend and former research associate Gerrard Williams. Gerrard is correct...but in a way that will even be a pleasant surprise for him and the producers of HH.

    I don't know your level of proficiency in German, but I've included a nice article from 1982 about Aubrey's return to Nussdorf am Inn.


    For whatever reason Aubrey's liberation date is incorrect. He wasn't a POW at Moosburg at that point. Perhaps because Nussdorf was technically a satellite camp of Moosburg the records reflect that. Aubrey was liberated on May 2 in Nussdorf am Inn. What I do have is over 3 decades of cordial and appreciative communication between Aubrey and the Moser family. In Nussdorf he was assigned to work for the Moser family. The Mosers treated Aubrey very well. I have extensive evidence of Aubrey's presence in Nussdorf, and corroboration of what he saw from four significant sources: 1). William Knippschild (Author of "Footsteps in the Sand"). I had the pleasure of conducting an extensive interview with this gentleman whose life intersected with Aubrey's in 1945. 2). Hughes Day Rudd, Jr.'s account of May 2-9, 1945. Unfortunately, Hughes passed in 1992, but he was a prolific author, journalist/writer. 3). Isaac Mitchell Baker, Jr. who served as the 7th Army/36th Infantry Division's air liaison officer. Major Baker was not only involved in the liberation of Nussdorf, he was also involved in tracking down the three Fieseler Storches Aubrey saw on April 30.
    4). Statements of the Moser's (then) teenage daughters and their neighbors.

    Tom, I know you'll understand that I'm under certain restrictions about how much I can reveal in a public forum. All of the above-mentioned research, and much more, will be published this fall.

    In answer to your other questions, I hope this will suffice, for now.

    1. Hitler did not drive from Berlin to Nussdorf. Hitler's escape route included several stages. He was flown to southern Bavaria and then transferred to Bouhler's alpine estate in Nussdorf am Inn. (I wish I could give you more, because I know you'd be intrigued, Tom).
    2. I have personally advocated for Aubrey's account to be included. Their attitude is that in season three they have already moved on from the how-Hitler-escaped-from-Berlin question. Of course, I respectfully disagreed. They unwisely passed on what would have been several dynamite "TV moments", but I wish them well.
    3. On HH they did claim that the longest leg of Hitler's escape was Tonder, Denmark, and then on to Spain. In seasons 1 & 2 HH did wisely decided to base this on the research of my brilliant friend and former research associate Gerrard Williams. Gerrard is correct...but in a way that will even be a pleasant surprise for him and the producers of HH.
     
  14. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery Patron

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    Tegan New Member

  16. CL1

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    all nonsense and fiction
     
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    Tegan New Member

     
  18. CL1

    CL1 116th LAA and 92nd (Loyals) LAA,Royal Artillery Patron

    Its a load of old twaddle
    Put your efforts into something else dont waste your time on it
     
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