Well i watch a movie from Discovary that Hitler didnt kill himself.They show some evidence that he escape in Argentina where he was supported by Germans who lived there. At the end of the war Stalin order the Russian soldiers to find Hitler alive if posible so they can judge him.Russians were trying to find him but they didnt manage to find him.They find a body that look a lot like Hitler.They bring some germans and ask them is this Hitler but they said that this isnt there fuhrer.The Russians find the bunker that Hitler were hiding and find some empty barrels from fuel and a hole in the ground.They found two bodys there and they balive one of them were Hitlers body but it was very disfigured and they cant regonise it.The only way they can was by the teeth.So they called Hitler's dentis he told them that those were Hitler's teeth.But after a week Stalin said that Soviet Inteligens find evidence that Hitler escaped in Argentina.One of the bigest main streets in Berlin was used for airfield and many germans escaped with british planes.The russians balived that Hitler was one of them and they said that he escaped for Norway and from there he escape with U-boat for Argentina.From there Hitler lived in a Hotel owned by a woman that helped the nazi party a years before ww2.FBI were surching for Hitler since 1970.One of the womans that worked in this Hotel claim that she seen Hitler. What is your opinion lads is this posible.Is it posible Hitler to escaped by the confusion of the war?
Not likely I would say. This all sounds a bit like 'Elvis riding Shergar around the grassy knoll' to me. Conspiracy theories are good though aren't they! The film 'Downfall' written from the perspective of Hitler's private secretary seemed to leave no doubt of their deaths. Great film. Very, very highly recommended. Millsy
I watch the film Downfall. I didnt say that i actualy balive Hitler didnt die. On the film showen by Discovery a lot of people who work on this case (most of them Russians) speak about a posability that Hitler escape.
I found the book by KGB officer Lev Bezymenski's on Hitler's death fascinating. Involved in both the hunt for the body and the autopsy the whole impression he gives is of enormous pressure from the very highest level (Stalin) for a conclusive result. However this pressure, and the interference in the original autopsy report, seems to have done more to add to the confusion. People ran around clutching at straws and falling out in their fear of displeasing Stalin to such an extent that nothing from that whole disturbed period, exacerbated by the chaos in Berlin, seems entirely reliable. All this confusion at the time seems to have left plenty of cracks for the conspiracists to work their way into and weave the elaborate stories of escape that circulate around AH's corpse. Later, and perhaps better, books have led to a more coherent and detailed account of events but there's somehow a more interesting and contemprary flavour about Bezymenski's book. There's also the factor that the continued survival of the Nazi Superman is just the kind of story that extreme right groups can use in building their mythologies. This didn't exactly help with the confusion either: From: Celebrity Morgue. :goodnight:
I am pretty sure I saw Hitler, Elvis, and Jim Morrison standing in line at a 7-11 the other day. Hitler had a microwave burrito.
I am pretty sure I saw Hitler, Elvis, and Jim Morrison standing in line at a 7-11 the other day. Hitler had a microwave burrito. Really ? Did you tell them my regards ?
No, Hitler did not die, he was whisked away to a secret nazi base in the South Pole. Here's an authentic picture of him taking off, with Keitel and Jodl saying goodbye
Berlin in 1945 was a complete mish-mash of confusion, terror and mayhem even in the weeks leading up to the Russians breaking through on the Oder. Could Hitler have escaped? Well its not impossible. However the one thing I would like to add to this and it might punch a hole in that story was that in 1945 Hitler was suffering from Parkinsons Disease and from the testimonies of survivors it seemed like he was in the advanced stages of it. For him too have survived 10 years never mind 25 of parkinsons disease seems unlikely. Also let us consider the possibility that he might have gone. when would he go?? Dont forget that everyone was waiting on a decision from Hitler as to whether they would go to the Obersalzburg or not. That decision was made very "late in the day" as the saying goes. Now if he spirited himself out any earlier why didnt nayone else leave whilst the going was good. We know from testimonies that Bormann was itching to get out before the Russians surrounded the city, also Ritter von Griem and Hanna Reitsch only made it out of the city by the slimmest of margins. Why would they enter the city if Hitler wasnt there? so we know that Hitler was the up to the 29th of the City. At this stage the only way out was on foot. Now how easy do you think it would have been to get an ailing parkinsons victim through enemy lines???? This just doesnt add up. I'm not buying it.
My 'heroic' interlude: It was on a wet and miserable night following my having newly arrived on a posting to RAF Wahn (Nr. Cologne) Germany. That was, a couple of years after the war's end. I didn't know anyone and so I ventured out to Cologne,alone, to see the city for myself. I could speak, not a word of German. I had observed much war damage to buildings all around. Since I was alone and in RAF uniform I was feeling a bit vulnerable and perhaps a little guilty. Eventually I could hear a young voice shouting excitedly in the in the streets. When he came into view, I realised that he was selling newspapers. After a while I could make out that his clarion call was "HITLER LEBT"! It was then that I realised that he was proclaiming to the world, that "HITLER LIVES". Having a great personal belief in the instinct of self preservation. I quickly came to the conclusion, that were I to walk into a newly reformed unit of the Liebstandard S.S. around the next corner. I may have presented myself to have been a prime target for a bit of local revenge, having due regard for the destruction all around me. I fell back on to my firm belief that 'Discretion was the better part of valour' as I hurriedly retraced my way back to the bahnhof (Rlwy Station) to return to RAF Wahn. The followng day I realised that the news, as declared by the newsboy, was at the time regularly used to drum up the sale of his papers. I, Not knowing that, I decided that it would be adviseble not to make my experience known to my new barrackroom mates. So it is, that whenever I read, see or hear the expression " HITLER LIVES" It takes me back to that rainy , vulnerable night in Cologne. If I had wet myself, and then bottled the result, could I have called it 'Koelnisch Wasser '?
No, Hitler did not die, he was whisked away to a secret nazi base in the South Pole. Here's an authentic picture of him taking off, with Keitel and Jodl saying goodbye What utter nonsense, Everyone with any sense knows that He went on to contest the North Minehead bi-election for the national Bocialist not at all Nazi party. I believe Mr Bimmler and Ron Vibbentrop retired from the council's parking fines department some years ago. Mr Hilters later careers also proved unsuccesful; View attachment 3277 It was on a wet and miserable night following my having newly arrived on a posting to RAF Wahn (Nr. Cologne) Germany. That was, a couple of years after the war's end. I didn't know anyone and so I ventured out to Cologne,alone, to see the city for myself. I could speak, not a word of German. I had observed much war damage to buildings all around. Since I was alone and in RAF uniform I was feeling a bit vulnerable and perhaps a little guilty. Eventually I could hear a young voice shouting excitedly in the in the streets. When he came into view, I realised that he was selling newspapers. After a while I could make out that his clarion call was "HITLER LEBT"! It was then that I realised that he was proclaiming to the world, that "HITLER LIVES". Having a great personal belief in the instinct of self preservation. I quickly came to the conclusion, that were I to walk into a newly reformed unit of the Liebstandard S.S. around the next corner. I may have presented myself to have been a prime target for a bit of local revenge, having due regard for the destruction all around me. I fell back on to my firm belief that 'Discretion was the better part of valour' as I hurriedly retraced my way back to the bahnhof (Rlwy Station) to return to RAF Wahn. The followng day I realised that the news, as declared by the newsboy, was at the time regularly used to drum the sale of his papers. I, Not knowing that, I decided that it would be adviseble not to make my experience known to my new barrackroom mates. So it is, that whenever I read, see or hear the expression " HITLER LIVES" It takes me backto that rainy , vulnerable night in Cologne. If I had wet myself, andbottled it could I have called it 'Koelnisch Wasser '? Great story. Cheers, Adam.
Ah Yes and the song "This town aint big enough for the both of us" was penned by AH about Generalissimo Stalin and the Battle for Berlin!!
http://www.theneworder.org/hitler_phenom/hitler_lives.html I really liked your post Heinrici.I balive that there are MANY things that were secret and the world never know about them.On Discovary when i watch about this "Hitler lives" they said that the best Stalin's agents were working on the case.And like from no where Stalin said that Hitler was alive and he is in Argentina.Of course its posible its even obvios that Stalin may lie.But why sould he?
Who really cares if AH lived on after WW2, the main point is that his Nazi party with all it's propoganda and hatred was dead! Let's just hope that Europe never gets in the same mess again.
Who really cares if AH lived on after WW2, the main point is that his Nazi party with all it's propoganda and hatred was dead! Let's just hope that Europe never gets in the same mess again. Adolf Hitler is man responsible for a least 50 milion dead people.He started one of the bigest wars in the world and he killed brutaly aloms 6 milion jews.Its sad if he get awey with it !
Dani I think we can take it that he didnt get away with it. Whats sad is that it took until 1990 for Europe to emerge from the shadow of Hitler and his actions.
On another tack, Hitlers not really dead. The Genie's out of the bottle and the Nazis will stand forever as an ideology for certain types to nail their colours to, that's one of the reasons we still study them. All too easy for things to happen again unless lessons learnt remain learnt. 'Hitlerite obsession' thread of a while back underlined our continued fascination with the nazis, Hitler and his end. Conspiracy theories are hardly surprising are they.
Skinheads , Act of racist violence,Secret nazi comunity (Bulgarian special police force busted one in Bulgaria) all those are on the earth too.And when the idology of one man is alive he is alive.Hitler is only a figure he's ideology is what matter most.And trust me there will aweys be people who trust this in Hitler's ideology.
Thanks for your comment V.P. I looked up your recommendation for a house painter, Adolf & Co in the yellow advert above at Berlin 2741. I was informed that he was no longer in business " cos hees tod". southern Geordie, Heil... ..Oops! sorry, a slip of the tongue
