Heritage Canadiana War Diaries Updated

Discussion in 'Canadian' started by dryan67, Aug 9, 2015.

  1. dryan67

    dryan67 Senior Member

  2. dryan67

    dryan67 Senior Member

    I have updated the Heritage Canadiana war diary spreadsheet to the current number of reels, 1092 as of today, October 1st, 2016. You can download the spreadsheet in the Resource section of the forum. I deleted the old version and put up the new version.
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  3. Mori

    Mori Active Member

    A big thanks for all the updates on this thread. This is really handy.

    Someone mentioned an automatic download tool: I also made one for myself. If you're not afraid of using a command shell (for only 1 command, no more), send a pm and I'll give you instructions.

    Besides war diaries, LAC has also posted countless files from CMHQ. Many are immensely interesting.
    @dryan67: have you considered making a spreadsheet for this collection too?
  4. dryan67

    dryan67 Senior Member


    My interest at the moment is with the Canadian Army at Home. In the future I will expand to the Canadian Army in Britain and the CMHQ files will be an important tool. I have also done some work with Movement Control files and the 1946 Army Central Registry, which both concern home forces. I am a Mac person and I tried to put unto effect an automatic download tool using PHP but the program I received was from a PC. Does your command shell work on a Mac? If so, PM me with details.
  5. Mori

    Mori Active Member


    Your spreadsheet made me discover plenty of interesting files, especially the duplicates of German and British archives.

    I can sometimes link the Canadian entries and the TNA (of the NARA) equivalent. For example T-2425 War Diaries, 53rd (Welsh) and 15th (Scottish) Divisions is at TNA under WO 171/4276 and 171/4277.

    Well, T-2425 is only 53rd Div, and it includes war diary for February and March 1945. TNA WO 171/4276 is January-February and 171/4277 March-April, so it's not exactly cut the same way.

  6. Tolbooth

    Tolbooth Patron Patron


    Thanks for the great work.

    Also I don't know if anyone else has come across this but some of the diaries may be out of order within the reel.

    I was looking for 8th Recce Reg, Aug '44 (Op Totalise) but the scans went straight from July to September. Eventually found August between October and November, so it's worthwhile ploughing through the whole reel if you're looking for something specific.

  7. dryan67

    dryan67 Senior Member


    You are correct regarding the reels. I have found Volumes that are not documented in the LAC catalog. I use the LAC catalog to build my spreadsheet, but the LAC catalog often misses some of the Volumes that are on the reel. The case in point that I found recently is regarding the General Staff War Diaries for the 6th Canadian Division. The originals appear to have been lost at the LAC. My colleague went there, requested the originals, and was told they were missing. When the Reel was placed online at Heritage, the Volume that contained the 6th Division GS was on the reel right where it should have been even though the LAC online catalog did not show it. I have reported this to the LAC and they have responded.

    Also the order that I have shown on my spreadsheet is not necessarily the order on the reel. This is because the LAC online search engine does not show the order on the reel. Often a Volume will overlap onto another reel even though it is not shown on the other reel in the search engine.

    It is best to use the spreadsheet as a guideline and thoroughly search each reel as you have done to establish what is really on the reel. It do this for the reels that I am interested in and build a guide for later. Here is an example:

    10th Searchlight Battery (CD) RCA

    T-16859 - pp. 1077-1875 (Jul_39-30_Apr_40)

    T-16860 - pp. 13-1859 (1_Apr_40-31_Aug_40)

    T-16861 - pp. 13-1833 (1_Aug_40-31_Oct_40)

    T-16862 - pp. 13-1891 (1_Oct_40-31_Dec_40)

    T-16863 - pp. 13-1902 (1_Dec_40-31_Mar_41)

    T-16864 - pp. 1821 (1_Mar_41–31_May_41)

    T-16865 - pp. 13-1856 (1_May_41-31_Jul_41)

    T-16866 - pp. 13-1867 (1_Jul_41-30_Sep_41)

    T-16867 - pp. 13-1847 (1_Sep_41-31_Oct_41)

    T-16868 - pp. 13-1497 (1_Nov_41-30_Sep_42)

    Thanks for the information. It will help other members search the reels.

  8. JohnS

    JohnS Senior Member

    It is still a good guide and from what I can tell the RCE reels are pretty accurate. I will catalogue any discrepancies I come across and send them your way.
  9. dryan67

    dryan67 Senior Member

    Thanks John
  10. dryan67

    dryan67 Senior Member

    There have been some updates of the Heritage Canadiana War Diaries. Eleven reels have been added. They generally are Brigade and RCE war diaries. Here are the specific reels that have been added. I hope that they are part of a new batch and more will be added over the next number of days. I will update the Heritage Canadiana War Diaries spreadsheet in the resource section to reflect the new reels. Here is the list of reels in the meantime:

    Last edited: Jan 16, 2017
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  11. JohnS

    JohnS Senior Member

    Looking forward to the update because I don't even see T-18886 and 7 on the ones that aren't posted. What RCE units are these?
  12. dryan67

    dryan67 Senior Member

    John, download the updated spreadsheet in Resouces. The eleven reels are color-coded orange. Here is a summary of the three RCE reels:

    T-18371 7th Field Company RCE 1944/12-1945/09; 11th (Lambton) Field Company RCE 1939/09-1941/02
    T-18586 30th Field Company RCE 1943/05-1944/04; 1944/05-1945/03
    T-18587 30th Field Company RCE 1944/05-1945/03; 1945/04-1945/10; 31st Field Company RCE 1943/05-1944/03
  13. dryan67

    dryan67 Senior Member

    The reels should be T-18586 and T-18587. My bad. I have edited the reply above.

  14. JohnS

    JohnS Senior Member

    Okay, that makes sense now. Thanks.
  15. geordie809

    geordie809 Junior Member

    Good Morning
    I was conducting a search on Movement Control when it brought up your post, I am the historical Secretary of the Movement Control Association, and am very intrigued about your research and would like to discuss it with you further, if you are willing to help out our association please contact me, many thanks.

    best regards

  16. dryan67

    dryan67 Senior Member

    The Heritage Canadiana site has added eleven more reels as of today. They fall in the the area of 1st Canadian Army General Staff, HQ Esquimalt Fortress and 4th Canadian Infantry Brigade. Here is the current list:

    T-6680, T-6690, T-6691, T-6692, T-6697, T-10872, T-10873, T-10874, T-10875, T-11148, and T-11149.

    I am updated the spreadsheet and will post a new version shortly.
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  17. dryan67

    dryan67 Senior Member

    As of today (March 10, 2017), 114 more reels have been posted in addition to the 11 posted on Wednesday, making a total of 125 this week. I have already added the 11 to my spreadsheet and I will add the 125 others soon. I have the grandkids today because it is a snow day in southern Connecticut so it will take a while. You can check the UPDATE button on the site to see what has been added in the meantime.
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  18. dryan67

    dryan67 Senior Member

    Please note that as of today (March 10, 2017) some of the reels are still feeding in so they are showing as missing. This will correct when they are finished feeding in the reels.
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  19. dryan67

    dryan67 Senior Member

    As of 7:20pm EST (March 10, 2017), there are only 12 reels that have not been fed in. I would hope that these will be completed by the end of the evening.
  20. dryan67

    dryan67 Senior Member

    I have added the updated Heritage Canadiana War Diaries Spreadsheet in the Resource area. It contains the 125 reels added this week. These are coded in red while all older reels are now black. The War Diaries not posted section has also been updated with only 124 reels remaining through the RCE area of the Archives.

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